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Telecon Secretary Rogers 6:45 p. m. 10/13/69 On the President's thoughts, Rogers wanted to be sure he got the signal straight. The President indicated he wanted someone to go on a TV show on Wednesday that NBC is doing. This confused him since the new instructions were not to say anything about Vietnam until after the President's Nov. 3 address. K said he just heard about the TV show and he felt the same as Rogers and didn't know where the instructions came from. K said his own view was that we should leave Oct. 15 to the demonstrators Rogers asked if that was the Presidents view. K said those are the words the President asked him to repeat to Sec. Romney who had offered to do something. K thought the TV thing was from Klein and said he would run it down and call Rogers back. Rogers didn't feel there should be X mandatory instructions until we see how things go. It would be a mistake to hold off all instructions and thought we should do it on a day to day basis since its such a long period of time. K said, well, that was the President's intention. Rogers thought he had better talk to the President then. Rogers thought maybe the President was just talking about hearings. K was sure about that. K said it depends on what you mean by discussion. The President wanted to avoid 'on the record public statements. 11 Rogers asked what the President wanted to avoid. You can't tell people they can't talk about Vietnam for three weeks. K suggested that a press conferences any questions about Vietnam should be referred to the President's speech. Rogers said it wasn't realistic, when the hottest thing in the world today is Vietnam. He thought the President meant major speeches. K said that day to day things could be covered by McCloskey. Rogers said they are raising questions about progress. He wanted to say, yes there had been progress and didn't want to back away from that. K said that anything that would reaffirm what has been said would be O. k. Whatever Rogers or Laird have already said could be reaffirmed. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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