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TELECON The President Mr. Kissinger 4:05 p. m. , October 30, 1969 The President had just walked through the West Basement and thought it was disgraceful to have that kind of waiting room. That is why the new arrangement is going to be very good, he said. K agreed that it was a very poor situation and said he was looking forward to the new set up. The President said he had talked to Pederson as he walked through. Pederson said he was very pleased with the speech. However, he mentioned one sentence which the President wanted K to call Pederson about -- he wanted people to feel he followed through on their requests. K said he had discussed this w/Rogers, and thought it was all taken care of. K said after the meeting upstairs, he had gone over the speech with Rogers who agreed that the way the speech has been edited now, the sentence on our feeling toward regimes is unnecessary. K said State has raised this issue every day. The sentence was deleted which seemed to imply that we preferred dictatorships. The President interjected that he does favor dictatorships. The President asked K if it was his feeling now he does not want to discuss ceasefire. K said the President should discuss ceasefire in the context of what we have already said. Some people don't know what a unilateral ceasefire means. If you say we can't ceasefire while they fire, it will be said that is what they say anyway. The President said he would throw the ceasefire in at the press conference, and K agreed that is the right place for it. The President said he thought, as a result of the meeting today with Mitchell, Laird and Rogers, we have the people on track. K said that was a masterpiece -- he was astounded the way the President got around to the letter. It wasn't painful at all. The President asked whether the fact that Kraft knew about that letter doesn't prove he has an affiliation with the other side; he wondered why Kraft wrote that. He said he did think Rogers had a point with regard to the fact they will pressure out the other letter. K said he could have it ready and Ron could release it the next day. The President agreed we could say we were giveing the North Vietnamese an opportunity to release it. K said if the President gets a few questions, he can say it is being reproduced and will be made available on Tuesday; the substance is in the speech anyway. Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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