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Telecon Sec. Rogers 11/04/69 9:20 a. m. K said he didn't have anything special to say, just wanted to check with R--we're swamped with cables. Don't know what that means--R said it can't be bad-. said the cables were running about one thousand to one favorable, and there are about 10 thousand in already. They are stack- ed at Western Union all over the country; people were driving the West- ern Union president crazy last night because they couldn't get the oper- ators. R said we should have a group of people counting them, SO we can have some kind of count. K said we'll get that later. The only cables we've gotten SO far by some fluke got in directly; most are still in offices in each region for some reason, and will be sent in to- gether. K said we got one telegram with twenty thousand signatures from Colorado alone. R said that doesn't count so much, because it must have been prepared in advance. K said that's right; it came in during the afternoon, so it doesn't count. But Hopkins says he's never seen anything like it. The switchboard reported fifteen hundred phone calls by midnight. K said it was very successful. Of course the Times and Post are hav- ing conniptions. R said he thought the Post wasn't SO bad. K said the Post was fair, but Reston was outrageous. K said he told Kraft the military is less influential now than in the McNamara regime. R said XNXX true. K said the group he talked to is the group he had Thursday. And we were all agreed ot was weighted toward the military people. R said he'd say. People want unilateral cease alternatives. R said most of the reaction was subjective. R said people want unilateral cease-fiee; no one thinks of the alternatives. R said he was going to say at the hearings, what do they propose? K said they say unilateral cease- fire as if it would wxxxxx work. R said right, the enemy rejected our cease- fire. If the President had used kix it they would have said phoney and fake. Tje P said the choice is between pull-out and what we're doing. R thinks out position is logically totally defenseable. K said we've gone more than the extra mile. If we ever did to Hanoi what Hanoi has done to us, people would have fits. R asked if K had listened to Harriman. R said at the Family of Man dinner, Harriman was supposed to speak for two minutes; he gave himself a 5-minute introduction, and then talke d for 15 more minutes. He said some nice things about Rogers, but his talk was very confused. Nobody knew what he said. When R got up to speak, he thanked Harriman for the nice introduction and his support. R said he has no effect any more. But Reston, Gore, Javitts, even Fulbright Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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