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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nJoe Sisco\n12/4/69 11:48 a. m.\nK said how is the just and lasting peace progressing. S said I'm a war\nmonger; I'm for war.\nS said the Secretary wonders whether he can get a general go-ahead on\nthat speech. K said it's in the President's office now; K said what is\nthe advantage of giving it? S said it's geared to upcoming summit meet-\ning. S said it's within the framework of our present policy. K said\nassuming what the P doesn't yet accept\nthat we have to keep push-\ning negotiations. S said the speech goes down in whatever foreseeable\npurpose we could have in the future. S said we haven't said anything\nsubstantive since March; we haven't taken a balanced stand in the discus-\nsions; we think it will bolster the Jordanians, Moroccans and Libyans;\nit makes our position reasonably clear in circumstances where we are\nnot likely to get a political settlement.\nK said he is not at all sure from talking with the P that he believes we\nare on the right track. K said the P wants to reserve judgment until\nthe NSC meeting. S said it's a statement of policy on what we've done.\nK said he has passed it on. S said he thought this was based on the as-\nsumption that the NSC meeting would be today. K said the more he\nthought about it he thought to make a major policy decision without the\nSecretary of State present\nIf it were arms supply for Pakistan or\nsomething\nS said he has come to two conclusions: 1) we've got to operate on the\nassumption that we are not going to get a consensus; 2) as long as we're\nnot going to get a consensus, it's better in the area having the disagree-\nment part of the overall disagreement in a four power context rather\nthan we being pushed into a corner where it's 3 against 1 and we can't\nproduce the Israelis. K said I don't understand. S said he is going to\ntry to get this down on paper. S said on the Jordan aspect, we ought to\ndecide what the outer perimeter of what our views are on the Jordan\nsettlement: hope to maintain a toehold on Hussein; consistent with\nJordanian security. S said secondly, if Charlie is armed with that--\ncan say that's out position--it's - unlikely to get a Russian agreement.\nIf that's the case we can stand firm on the October 28 document. We\ncan say we think it's a reasonable and fair proposal. We say these pro-\nposals stand; there's no purpose in taking further until a closer meeting\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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