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TELECON The President 6:28 p. m. , December 15, 1969 Mr. Kissinger called the President to congratulate him on his speech. He told the President it was the best talk he had ever heard him give -- it had been tremendously effective. The President said, 'even better than November 3? K said in terms of pure delivery, the November 3 speech was not as good. In terms of the whole context, he had not been SO assertive on November 3; it would not have been right for that speech. This statement was assertive the Commander-in-Chief stating where he is and where he is going. On November 3, he had been stating the case and appealing to the human being. K then said that some of the press people who came to his backgrounder said it was getting easy. There was no mood of tension -- it had been very positive. It hadn't been so hard for K. The President asked, 'on the delivery, what did K like -- the assertiveness? K said it was a strong speech, strongly delivered, like his press conference last Monday. It wasn't aggressive, but it was the Commander-in-Chief talking. K said some of his staff members, who are tough critics, had listened with him; and they couldn't have been more delighted. It was a very effective delivery. But it won't get a response. The President agreed -- no more than the other troop withdrawal announcements. K said it will do one thing the others didn't. The others ushered in a period of controversy. The first one had ended with a press conference on Clifford; the last one was the beginning of the Moratorium outcry. The President said this one was important because it was a report to the people -- the people like to be let in on. K said this is the first time the President is withdrawing when he is not under pressure. The President mentioned that Manolo had liked the statement about Sir Robert Thompson. K said the press had liked that; they had asked a lot of questions; such as, "Does the President go along with everything Thompson said [apparently, he said yesterday in Britain that a large force has to be kept there after victory]. K said no, the primary purpose was to make an analysis. The President was looking for someone to make such an analysis. The President asked K if he had indicated that he had a long talk with Sir Robert both before and after he went to Vietnam. The President said he had added the part about listening to the people because it seemed to him that method, while it will have no Republican impact, it will have a reassurance for the people. He asked K if he got that across in his backgrounder. K said he had said it was one of the qualifications. We had looked for someone who didn't owe us anything. K said one can sense when you talk to the press. On November 3, it was an emotional experience -- they were outraged. Every question was Reproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library DECLASSIFIED This document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.

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