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    "ocrText": "TELECON\nJoe Sisco\n9:22 p. m. , December 15, 1969\nK asked S why he didn't stop annoying the Israelis. S said he had\ngoofed last week -- he told Max Fisher when he should have sent him\nthe draft speech ahead of time. S had told Fisher he would take\nfull\nresponsibility and he would report to K on it.\nK said he had had to put Eban off. S said Eban was seeing the Secretary\n3:30-5:30 on Tuesday and asked when K would see him now. K said\nprobably Wednesday morning unless he could see him at 11:300 a. m\non Tuesday. S said they can be reminded that if they want the US\nto play a singular role on the Jordan/Israel aspect, we ought to tell\nthem we would be willing to play that role. S said he flew to London\nwhere he met with the Jordanians (he sent this to K tonight). Hussein\nhas said his private assistant and Meir's private assistant could meet\nin the same room with Sisco. S said we can provide them with this.\nK said that is almost direct negotiation. S said he didn't know whether\nthey are ready at this stage of the game to be specific.\nS said he has been taking this line: look, we are not convinced any\nmore than you that Nasser wants peace, but you fellows have succeeded\nin appearing like a warmonger rather than a peacemaker. S said he\nthought K's pros and cons at the NSC XXXXXXX meeting were terrific.\nK said he thought it clarified a lot of things. S said K had brought\nit\nto the fire for the first time and made them look at the other end of\nthe tunnel. K asked S what he thought personally. S said he thought\nif we are able to use basically that line in the Jordanian paper, we\nshould take that position. S thinks it will come out that we will not\nachieve a four-power concensus on that basis. We will be urged to\ngo a step farther, but we have to get guts on that and tell Charlie he\ncannot move one inch beyond this. We are not going to achieve a\nconcensus. It clears our skirts -- it will not get us a settlement,\nbut we have adopted a reaspnable position. K asked with whom it clears\nour skirts if both the Israelis and Araba get made with us. S referenced\nthe Secretary's speech we have threatened the moderates. K said\nhe would have to say he agrees. Moscow wouldn't say we were splitting\nthem if we weren't. S said they don't know how to handle the October 28\nformulation. Intelligence indicates we have given heart to the Moroccans,\nthe Saudi Arabians and even the Jordians. We are strengthening the\nmoderates a little bit. This trend may not be reversable in the long run.\nK\nsaid the radical trend maybe at this stage of the conquest\nS\nsaid we should try this out. K said that's direct contact through you.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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