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    "ocrText": "TELECON\nMr. Kissinger\nThe President\n1/13/70; 8:50 m.\nK said Mr. President, I wanted to report about my trip -- I got back\nabout one hour ago. K said he (LBJ) was in a more benign mood this\ntime and said he had to confess something. K said that LBJ had to\nconfess that re foreign policy things were a lot better now than they\nwere when he left office. K said LBJ was worried about the Defense\nbudget. K said LBJ didn't have any specific reasons but he went over\nhis Defense budget with great care and was proud when he could cut\n$5 billion out of it. K said LBJ thought K should impress upon the\nPresident that somewhere along the line somebody will have to pay\nfor it. P said we, on the Defense budget, can move in a certain\ndirection now but have to be prepared to move in other directions\nlater. P said we have a difficult problem now that could destroy\neverything. P said we have to make it credible. K said he told LBJ\nthat we had set up a Defense Review Group Committee and to the best\nof K's knowledge he didn't see where we cut anything that would hurt\nus. P said I think we have to put more in authorization and less in\nappropriation. P said he had Laird in and asked what we could cut.\nP said Laird said Safeguard. P said Laird said he can't do too much\nbecause it involves our bargaining position. P said I told Laird to\ndiscuss this with you or Harlow in the morning. P said the whole\nquestion is whether it could be done in a way that is really credible\ndue to the fact that we really don't know what to do. P said but under\nno circumstances can we take away our bargaining card. P said\nLaird said that in the Cabinet meeting today and that Laird is very\nstrong on the issue. K said maybe we can cancel F-111. P said but\nthen Laird says he wants to buy other planes. K said I will go over\nit with him. K said Laird called him but he has not been able to reach\nhim. P said keep in mind that national security comes first.\nK\nsaid\nhe was very strong to President Johnson about that and LBJ said he\nwanted the President to know that he had great confidence in him. K\nsaid LBJ said P should have more confidence in his instincts and XX\nnot in advisors (?). K said I told LBJ that no\none\nis\nless affected by the press than you are. P said the main thing\nis how we handle the inflation problem. P said he would like to put\nin\nlarger authorizations and smaller appropriations. K said Haig was\nover\nthere to talk to the Generals and he (Haig) has never seen them in a\nmore rebellious mood they think that Laird tricked them. P said\nlet me say this just do what you can but no more. P said you, &Harlow\ntalk to Laird but don't let Laird do more than he ought to do. P said\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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