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K: For example, the invasion of Southern France. If those units had
been put into the Balkans the whole thing would have been different.
P: I think you should scan through it and see just what happened. He would
send a message over and obviously the American President was responding
and was responding in an almost unbelievably naive way.
K: And these Kremlinologists were saying just what Thompson told you.
"You have to be in good faith."
P: Right and Truman turned down a meeting with Churchill first and then
came back with the proposition that Truman ought to meet with Stalin first.
Well that would have been the most terrible thing. It is well to read this
stuff in order to know what we are dealing with now.
K: Hopkins wanted Truman and Roosevelt to be the intermediary between
England and Russia, grossly overestimating the British strength and
grossly underestimating the Russian intentions.
P: What I am getting it is that I don't know what these clowns want to talk
about but the 1 line: we take is either they talk or we are going to sit it out.
I don't feel this is any time for concession. And mainly because I feel
that's the only way we are going to get anywhere is by talking this way.
K: Mr. President I presented these proposals to the meeting of the
Special Studies Group today and Elliot Richardson has changed his mind.
He says it would be a grave mistake. So we have some support in State.
He said if they are willing I think you should take a shot at it on the 8th.
I will give to you what I am going to say -- it will be a hard line.
P: First, say we have got to talk about a coalition government. Just
close the book and walk out. They will say we have got to talk on basically
more points than those.
K: If this analysis we have made is correct they are in trouble. That
doesn't mean they are not going to hit us this year. They may hit us this
year in the Delta and in I Corps. But that will be their last shot.
P: I agree, they may hit us but they haven't got a lot to hit us with, but it
isn't like the Germans in the Battle of the Bulge. They don't have the forces
to mount any kind of sustained thing.
K: If we had forces in the Delta I won't worry about it all. They may
overrun the VN units, but I don't believe it.
P: Well I have been hearing some good reports about the South Vietnamese
forces. Don't you agree?
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