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K: The President could just say I hope. As long as we are talking
there are a couple of things. One is that proposal of a demarche to the
Soviets. The Sisco one. I haven't shown it to the President yet whether
you should call in Dobrynin. I should think the President's instincts will be
to let Beam do it because Beam complained about not having enough.
R: I would support that. I wondered whether I should have him change that.
K: I don't know where the President's views will be . I am leery of
channeling everything through Dobrynin. In some cases there is an advan-
tage in having it go through someone who doesn't have all the details.
He is less flexible. And there is some advantage to having things go
directly.
Finally, AUDA. I haven't seen that cable you referred to. What
instructions were you talking about? To Bea m?
R: yes a cable to Beam Gerry was away over the weekend. I talked to
him yesterday and told him that I had questions about it and didn't want to
send it to the WH in that form. The upshot was that he was going to talk
to you in general terms.
K: He hasn't done it yet. He (the President) is restive with the Advisory
Committee of ACDA. He feels that if it had been run as it was told it would
not have gotten out of control. They are taking testimony and only to
embarrass him. Our impression is that while ACDA did not encourage
them they didn't discourage them.
R: They felt that, based on my talk with Gerry, it was exceedingly hard
to do.
K: What the President meant to say -- he wanted to put to them that he
was flexible on MIRV and ABM. But he didn't expect them to make separate
studies. We will make new rules so that they cannot interpret except through
written instructions. We are not unreasonable on his negotiating.
R: On Gerry's account, I saw a memo from Cy Wise who had had lunch
with Gen. Allison and he went out of his way to say how faithful Gerry
had been in Helsinki.
K: In Helsinki he was. This President reacts badly on what he considers
bureaucratic ploys.
R: I will talk to McCloy.
K: The President will be talking to him tomorrow.
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