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TELCON Symington/Kissinger 3:55 pm 2/26/70 (This conversation may seem somewhat incoherent as the notetaker could barely hear the Senator) S: They have held the Laotian hearings up for 4 months because they didn't want anything about our planes operating on the Plains des Jars even though the papers have been saying we are doing it. Now Goldwater says, and I feel, that everybody knows we are doing it. We had our meeting and McCloskey blew the fact that we had it. I told you that. K: What meeting? S: The meeting with the President. I can't enter subcommittee -- I do my best to cooperate. Now ? ? ? ? on their next trip to Europe and the M. E. thexMxx. we can't tell anything about any nuclear weapons. I can say I have been to a country near Russia that has pilots ? ? ? ? ? K: What's the point? S: They won;t give us the information. But when I go out as a member of the Armed Services Committee and get full information. said something about conventional weapons. He said he couldn't talk about it. I went to Defense and State. In an executive session, if you can't talk about what's going on, we might as well resign. Fulbright isn't to fool with. I wrote Rogers and said this should be out. The people know we are up north. People write us asking about their sons. The only people who know anything on Laos are Republicans. I told Stevenson that if they think they can make a fool of my, they are fooling with the wrong person. My only interest is to get the truth to the people. K: You are an honorable man. S: The President made a statement on Nov. 3 that the people won't support a war they know nothing about. Now they are leaking information on the floor of the Senate. K: Let me work into this and get back to you. S: I haven't received any word from Rogers in three weeks. Everything is being quietly put out because we don't want to K: I will call you within a week.

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