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Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidentiap [awarynd returned non-historical material.\nDECLASSIFIED\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified. NA 14021 (4-85)\nDOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD [NIXON PROJECT]\nDOCUMENT\nDOCUMENT\nNUMBER\nTYPE\nSUBJECT/TITLE OR CORRESPONDENTS\nDATE\nRESTRICTION\n4\nTckon\nHAR and Walt Rostow (2 pp.)\n4/11/70\nB\nMANDATORY REVIEW\nREQUEST NLN 07-31/14\nY\nTalcon\nHAK and Richard Helms (ip.)\n4/14/70\nB\nMANDATORY REVIEW\nREQUEST NLN 07-31/15\nFILE GROUP TITLE\nBOX NUMBER\nKissinger Transcripts - Telephone Conversations\n4\nFOLDER TITLE\n1970 6- 14 Apr. 9\nRESTRICTION CODES\nA. Release would violate a Federal statute or Agency Policy.\nE. Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential commercial or\nB. National security classified information.\nfinancial information.\nC. Pending or approved claim that release would violate an individual's\nF. Release would disclose investigatory information compiled for law\nrights.\nenforcement purposes.\nD. Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon returned non-historical material.\nDECLASSIFIED\nNN RECORDS AOMINISTR\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n)\nHAK on Vacation inNassau\nfrom 27 March through\n5 April\n1970\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecretary Richardson\nMr. Kissinger\n10:30 a. m., 4-6-70\nK:\nElliot, how are you?\nR:\nFine, did you get some rest?\nK:\nYes, I did. Are you going to Zurich?\nR:\nYes, are you?\nK:\nThat almost forces me to go. When are you going?\nR:\nI was going to leave Wednesday - stop in london and transfer,\nmaybe stay in London overnight.\nK:\nAre you going commercially?\nR:\nYes. Could you get a plane?\nK:\nWell, I was thinking along those lines. I might be able to get\nit on the basis that if I go commercial I might be hijacked to\nCuba.\nR:\nI am due to leave commercially Wednesday night.\nK:\nI can't leave Wednesday. I am thinking of skipping the first\nday of the conference. Do you have a list of people that are\ngoing to be there?\nR:\nNot yet.\nK:\nDid you find it useful last year?\nR:\nYes, and I thought even now it would be a good chance to get\nto know a lot of people.\nK:\nI have not had an opportunity to talk to people on an unofficial\nbasis.\nR:\nIt would be great if we were both there. My present plan is\nto leave on the 15th during the night and I am thinking of\nspending a day in London and leave the next day to go to Zurich.\nI could change my plans however.\nK:\nLet me see - I will make up my mind in a few days. Another\nthing I wanted to talk to you about. I have heard that the\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSecretary is going to surface a memorandum with another\nposition other than the options given on SALT.\nR:\nThere is nothing to that. It will be option C or substantially\noption C. The only respect with which it may depart is that\nthe option paper does not deal with tactical questions at all.\nK:\nIn other words, no MIRVs or ABMs.\nR:\nHe may want to say no MIRVs or ABMs is something that a\nfinal decision can be deferred on.\nK:\nAs long as he does not throw in a lot of new considerations.\nR:\nThis would be a brief memorandum which supports Option C\nbut deals with tactical aspects in Vienna (?) context.\nK:\nI just want to make sure what we do this afternoon will be useful.\nR:\nMy own thought is that we have to spent some time on the footnotes.\nK:\nI am going to drive the people toward resolving the problems.\nR:\nWe ought to be able to resolve some of them. Otherwise, I\nthink the paper is damned good.\nK:\nI think it is good too.\nK:\nI will see you at 2:00 p.m. And I will be in touch about Zurich.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPhil Gehlin/Kissinger\n11:45 am\n4/6/70\nK: I call you so often, bleatingly, I thought I should tell you when I thought you\ndid an especially thoughtful editorial. Yesterday's was.\nG: I'm glad to hear it. We talked about it.\nK: It states the issue very well. Others might look at it differently. Very\nthoughtful and profound.\nG: I'm pleased.\nK: I just want you to know that.\nG: I hear you have been away.\nK: Puerto Rico and the Bahamas. I'm tanned, rested and my paranoia is slightly\nunder contol -- but I wouldn't test it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSen. Dominick/Kissinger\n12:45 pm\n4/6/70\nD: There's a resolution pending now which says the President should demand\nthe stoppage of all defensive deployment including MIRV. It's out of the Foreign\nRelations Committee and not the Armed Services committee. I should be probably\nin the Armed Services Committee. Italked with Stennis and he is against the\nresolution. It has popular support.\nK: You're the expert (?). I don't know if they know what a MIRV is.\nD: No, popular support in the Senate. The difficulty\nK: We are speaking privately?\nD: Defintely. If the resoljution passes it puts the President in a bad spot.\nK: From our point of view if that bill is killed, you will not hear from us.\nD: We can only kill it if the Administrations is willing to fight.\nK: Anything that ties our hands before the conference, we are eager to avoid.\nD: Are the leaders awaere of this?\nK: The President said in his press conference these should be taken up in\nthe conference and the Senate should tell only how it should be taken up. He\ngave a very low public reaction. Will this come up this afternoon?\nD: They are trying for it or maybe tomorrow. If we are going to mount a\nfight against it, we will have to start now.\nK: I would like to talk to the President.\nD: If you could it would be helpful and we can get the leadership and Stennis on\nit. I tried to get Stennis to work on his perogatives.\nK: We floxxx don't want to start an issue because it goes better without a public\nfight. We are not eager for that.\nD: I'm afraid you will get one if we oppose it.\nK: Could you do it on the ground that this is the subject of negotiations?\nD: We will probably do it on the ground that it should be from the Armed Forces\nCommittee.\nK: If we can get that done. Let me get to the President and Bryce Harlow and usee\nwhat we can do. Thanks very much, Peter, for calling.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHarlow/Kissinger\n1:00 pm\n4/6/70\nH; President Johnson was glad to see me but he didn't ask about you.\nK: I spent two hours with him and he said it was your worst mistake that you\ndidn't go to work for him. I had a call from Sen. Dominick about the end of the\nMIRV and ABM. He and his colleagues want to fight it if we want to. I would\njust as soon not have it passed but I don't know what your sense of it is. The\nPresident took the position he didn't give a damn. -- Oh, Dobrynin is calling\nme and I've been trying to reach him. Let me call you back.\nFurther conversation: 1:07 pm\nH: While you were talking to Dobrynin I was talking to Mansfield who wants us to\nsupport it.\nK: Dominick wants to put itrx in the Armed Forces Committee.\nH: This is mutual and not unilateral and sponsored by two Republicans --\nBrooke and one other. Mansfield says we have to get behind it. We need to\ntalk a hard look at it.\nK: How can we?\nH: Cole says he talked to Haig SO he may have gotten something going on it.\nMay I check back with you later?\nK: Let's do that.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nDobrynin/Kissinger\n1:00 pm 4/6/70\nK: I'm back in great fighting spirit.\nI\nD: That's why you didn't come with a lady to the WH.\nK: Her husband was there. You mean Mrs. Ford?\nD: I thought she was alone.\nK: I don't want to be assasinated in the WH. I'm working on the problem.\nD: Could I drop in tomorrow?\nK: You have something for me?\nID: Just a little bit.\nK: I was going to suggest dinner before you leave.\nD: In two days I have something more. It's my turn for the dinner. I'm meeting\ntoday with Jackques. He is leaving Wed. or Thurs. In two days he will\n.\nK: I am delighted to see you tomorrow. I think you and I should have a meeting\nto review a few things.\nD: Definitely before I go.\nK: My active life -- you have to give me a little warning. ???? It's easy\nto get along with me. Just cut off aid to NVN.\nD: That's all?\nK: I have something else but that's the major one for this week.\nD: That's the trouble. You never have only one thing.\nK: You want to come in tomorrow.\nD: Yes, 10 mins. on that other talk.\nK: Yes, before you go back and I have some reflections I want to discuss with\nyou. Hold on a minute. We could do it at 3:00 tomorrow in the usual place. Or\nin the morning if it's more urgent.\nD: 3:00 in the usual place. You did not mention to Jean our talk?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nDobrynin/Kissinger\n1:00 pm\n4/6/70\n-2-\nK: I noticed you mentioned one of the items to him.\nD: He and the Secy. pressed me. I didn't say anything.\nK: That's a separate idea. They don't know anything or how far it had gone.\nThey x can't do anything without us. If that is to be done, it must be at our\nlevel.\nD: Then I will keep it at that level.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHaldeman/Kissinger\n6:00 pm\n4/6/70\nH: Did you know the resident called Pauls?\nK: About the Guatemalan?\nH: Before he got your message a bout not calling the Chancellor, he started to\ncall. Then he switched and called the Ambassador. He told him to say that we\nare deeply distressed over the death of their Ambassador, and we must get\ntogether on these terrorists.\nK: We will do better by you.\nH: He didn't call and will not call Brandt. He said we need an international\nprogram to deal with terrorists. He mentioned that perhaps he and the Channellor\ncould discuss it sime at the end of the week. Tonight you are going to Taps?\nK: I'm not sure.\nH: You mean when they have moved people from their seats to accommodate\nyour wxbxex whim, you may not go?\nK: I have to get SALT in shape. We have 140 disagreements.\nH: That's your cup of tea. You know when he will announce the troop withdrawals?\nTomorrow.\nK: You're joking. I have to see him on that.\nH: I'm not. When he comes back from the ball game he is seeing Sen. Cook.\nThe ball game irs turning into an all night session.\nK: I have to see him -- maybe tomorrow morning or after taps tonight.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nGerard Smith\n4/7/70 8:45a. m.\nS: I have urged that we have investigations in the past of\ncertain leaks. But it seems to me that the New York Times one\nis one for investigation. I believe it is inaccurate, but it's a bold\ncase of breaking the law.\nK: Where do you think\nthere's no sense in speculating\nI guess.\nS: Well, there are the usual candidates plus the members of\nthis committee. I think there's no reason not to get Mitchell's\npeople to go in and see what they can find. I'm almost certain it's\nnone of our people.\nK: Well, you've played this game very correctly.\nS: I just don't talk to newspapermen.\nK: It's probably a member of that committee.\nS: There are only 6 people here who had access to it and I\nhave confidence in all of them.\nK: Some of the committee people don't have the restraints\nthat government people have.\nS: That's true. Say, I wonder if there could be written into\nthe instructions something about \"You are authorized to explore in\nplenary sessions and in private sessions with the chief of the dele-\ngation of the USSR\n11\nK: Do you think private sessions look more promising?\nS: I think we can do more in private sessions than with 12\npeople lined up in front of each other.\nK: All right. That's easy to write in.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSisco/Kissinger\n9:20 am 4/7/70\nS: I want you to have a look at a telegram which I have called to Hal's attention.\nIt's a brief summary of my meeting with Dobrynin yesterday. It's thin drool\nthey are putting out.\ngruel\nK: I saw last weeks.\nS: Also something in the\n.\nK: I saw that too.\nS: They are fiddling around and giving us nothing.\nK: I can give that to the President. Conditions of peace are nothing?\nS: If they don't produce in writing, I told them, you go ahead and produce what\nyou can accept. They said they want to take a closer look. They are trying to\nlook good but they are waiting for Cairo.\nK: How about the cease-fire?\nS: I'm looking closer on that. The Israelis feel that the purpose is to give Israel\nthe chance to ease up so thatthe Russians can get the SAM sites in.\nK: That's the Presidents view toon.\nS: I'm going to x tell the Secy.\nK: The President's interpretation is a low level Cuban maneuver.\nS: Our answer will be through Beam that we a publicly declared cease-fire SO\nthat the 4 powers can agree. I'm off tomorrow night to visit that area prior to\nthe Chiefs of Mission conference. Dobrynin is leaving for two weeks. We wi 11\nget together when we both return. Tell the President I will stick XX rigidly to the\npolicy.\nK: He asked me last night what I thought you would do and I said you would listen.\nS: The memo is coming in two hours.\nK: I will run it right into him.\nS: I'm going to reassure the Israelis.\nK: You might tell them that with new arms requests if they do them a little at a\ntime. That thing you and I discussed.\nS: And Very quietly.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nGerard Smith\n4/7/70 9:35 m.\nK: I hope you weren't too badly bruised yesterday.\nS: No, I thought it was one of our better meetings.\nK: I think we took care of some of your most troublesome\nproblems. And others we will take care of with the President.\nS: We have to make sure we are clear on Defense's position.\nwon't\nK: Laird will be at the meeting tomorrow; it will be Packard.\nS: Chet Hollofield wants me to appear Friday of this week. I\nurged him instead to accept Farley and perhaps you some time next\nweek.\nK: I'll be glad to brief, but not in an open session.\nS: No, an executive session I think.\nK: Not with any record kept. I am glad to be helpful, but I\ncan't establish the precedent that a White House aide testifies in\nany form.\nS: I'll speak to Phil Farley and tell him I've made this commit-\nment for him and you will X join under those conditions.\nK: Okay. I was talking with Laird this morning. His big pitch\nnow is we shouldn't open with a pitch right away. We should wait\n10 days. Does that upset your program?\nS: No, if he feels strongly we can go down the work program\nfor 10 days.\nK: You might want to let him win that one and see about other\npossibilities. You know his view on MIRV. He isn't going to go\nalong with you.\nS: We can take tolerate that. I think you should check the\nPresident's psychological position. It might be a letdown if there's\nnothing for 10 days.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nGerard Smith\n4/7/70 9:35 a. m.\npage 2\nK: There's another thought I've had, and this is purely mine.\nI'm playing with the idea that the first option should have NCA\nlevels on ABM. The limited option doesn't offer them a thing.\nWhat do you think?\nS: I agree. But I don't want to get into it on this open wire\nwhich can probably be read.\nK: You're trying to frame me for a security violation. There\nare more ways of trying to get rid of me\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nProfessor Doty\n4/7/70 9:38 a. m.\nD: Were you really on vacation?\nK: Yes.\nD: I supposed you were in Cambodia or something.\nK: The effectiveness of our intelligence improves by the\nabsence of our intelligence personnel. We didn't have anybody\nin Cambodia.\nD: You were a brave man to be away this week. I suppose\nthe Defense Department has sharpened its knives for SALT.\nK: Yes, we have 120 disagreements. But we had them in the\nSituation Room for 6 hours yesterday and really used our brass\nknuckles. I just knocked out most of the outrageous things; I said\nI refused to take them to the President.\nD: I was in Washington and saw Gerry Smith. He was nice\nto me for the first time. I was more hopeful then after reading\nJoe Kraft's column of a few days ago.\nK: The only thing that matters is how the damned thing\ncomes out. This is more complicated than any previous dis-\narmament problem we have faced.\nD: Is there any way that we can be of any use?\nK: We are meeting, aren't we?\nD: Yes.\nK: I have a speech on Wednesday.\nD: But your girl has moved it up to 5:00, hasn't she?\nK: We better make it 5:30; that's the earliest we can do it.\nD: Okay.\nK: How are things in Cambridge?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nProfessor Doty\n4/7/70 9:38 a.m.\npage 2\nD: Quiet. The anniversary is coming up, but it's quiet.\nI saw Goldman; he's coming to get some of your papers.\nK: Yes, I'm trying to get some of my papers calssified and\nworked over. He'll be down this weekend.\nD: Did the meeting yesterday solve anything?\nK: Yes, it reduced them to manageable problems. It's better\nto have the catharsis now than during the negotiations. It was\npretty rocky. A lot of things came up that I had never heard of\nbefore.\nD: That's what I heard.\nK: I just refused to entertain most of them. The few of them\nthat had merit we reduced to decideable proportions. I think we\nmade some real progress yesterday. We may make the wrong de-\ncision, but I think it will be basically okay.\nD: Okay, we will meet tomorrow afternoon.\nK: And have breakfast Thursday.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMcNamara/Kissinger\n10:00 am\n4/7/60\nK: I called you because I wanted a little help with one of your staff members.\nLarry Lynn is thinking of leaving and going to Stanford for a year. He told me\nseveral months ago. I had a week off and review the situation -- the systems\nanalysis thing is (moving from the WH ? I suggested I would give him a title\nand move him into the WH. If you have any influence with him, I wondered if you\nwould call him. This is one place that has a chance of getting an orderly look\nat things. I don't know where we would be on SALT and VN.\nM: It would be in the interest of the country ok for him to stay. I will call him.\nK: Hewill make up his mind in the next few days. Put it on the ground that it's\nin the national interest.\nM: You are right.\nK: SALT, VN, Review established. Then I can make a commitment to replace him.\nM: The best is to put it through the WH board?\nK: Make itx collent and charge it to me.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nM. Green/Kissinger\n11:45 am\n4/7/70\nG: A couple of things. You mentioned another luncheon with Bill Sullivan and me.\nK: Good. I kxxx will have Dave Young call your office and we will set it in the\nnext 10 days or so.\nG: Cambodia has come up.\nK: I found the ? ? ? ? ? ?. You will hear from Young in 24 hours.\nG: You have Beyroad's messages?\nK: No.\nG: He has asked that these messages go to the President.\nK: If they came in last week, Haig ,may have shown them to him.\nG: I think they should be\nK: If an Ambassador marks it for the President, they will go in.\nG: Any plans for further meetings on Cambodia?\nK: Nothing in the works now. Do you think it's urgent?\nG: No, I prefer to lunch with you first.\nK: Let's aim for that.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPackard/Kissinger\nafternoon\n4/7/70\nP: Are you involved in the continental shelf problem?\nK: Yes.\nP: The Candians are about to go ahead on that northern area/\nK: We have told them we fiolently object.\nP: If the President could make a decision on an international authority\nK: We have set an internal meeting here for Thursday and we hope to have a\ndecision Mon. or Tues.\nP: If we could have made a comment on this we could have forstalled Brazil,\nCanada, etc.\nK: I was ready to go three weeks ago. I lean toward your positionand it's the\nonly answer to these multiplying claims. Hickel has gotten to Ehrlichman\nwith a very one-sided presentation.\nP: In Alaska that 200 meter limit will keep the oil up there. If we talk to the\noil industry, we can probably get some support.\nK: Ehrlichman has to get to the President and he won't be back until Thurs.\nI\nP: I will help if I can or we will be dead.\nK: I agree with you. We will not take the Interior position.\nP: That's important.\nK: But if I can get give Ehrlichmand to come along, we're in free.\nP: Anything I can do I will be glad to do so.\nK: You were very helpful yesterday.\nP: I should have gotten some of that done before the meeting. It was necessary\nto let our General friend\nK: He was in a\n.\nP: I think it's a pity to give the President too many details.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPackard/Kissinger\n4/7/70\n-2-\nK: That's right. We got rid of a lot yesterday.\nP: I will look it over today here. Another thing on the continental shelf matter --\nElliot and I agree. We should take the forthcoming action now and then work on\nhis idea. Then we are not in trouble. Xxxx the sooner the better.\nK: I will try for something next week.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nG. Smith/Kissinger\n2:45 pm\n4/7/70\nS: Do you think we should could squeeze in a meeting with the SALT delegation\nand the President?\nK: I will do my best. When do you Leave? Monday?\nS: yes, 9:00 Monday morning.\nK: We will try.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRichardson/Kissinger\n3:03 pm\n4/7/70\nR: I have had a call earlier today from Chick Colson re an article by Henry\nCabot Lodge for the Reader's Digest.\nK: Who's Colson?\nR: He's the man who handles groups and things. He says you had seen it, or\nsomeone on your staff.\nK: No, I haven't.\nR: Someone in your office. IHe called me because he wanted someone in State\nto see it. I think the draft is pretty bad. Two problems: it bares down hard on\nthe Soviet first strike threat. Secondly, it doesn't distinguish on area defensive\nversus the thin concept.\nK: This was done last week.\nR: I think this should be done in your office. I can't call Colson and say there\nare two or three changes. It's too pervasive.\nK: Colson shouldn't have called you.\nR: I have known him. But you or someone should be in charge\nK: I will give it to the ABM management group. My position on Mellenhoff re\nSonnenfeldt I hear he is x begging you on a promotion to FSO-1.\nR: I got an inkling yesterday when I spoke to Sonnenfledt.\nK: My position is I will NOT] have have him playing with my personnel and looking at\nsecurity files. I think we should coordinate.\nR: I will be glad to.\nK: One of his points is that I have put pressure on State to promote him. I didn't\nthink he was being considered. That's between him and me. But he is alleging\na security violation and I will not permit that. We have a security office. So\ndoes State. I will not have Mollenhoff judging that. He is not a security officer.\nI am not going to give him the file and I hope you won't.\nR: I'm glad you mentioned it. I will send the article back and also the memo on\ngeneral force and strategic force levels.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n5:47 pm\n4/7/70\nR: On this call to Trudeau. Alex says it's a possibility there's a little flexibility\nleft in Trudeau. If he talks to me is the President adamant?\nK: He isn't adamant. Just complain he hasn't done what we wanted. You don't\nhave to talk to him. You can talk to the Ambassador.\nR: He has a call in. I will talk to him and see\nK: Don't take a tough line.\nR: On the M.E. Joe Sisco wants us to tell the Israelis not to conduct themselves\nin the future as in the past on requests. I made that clear to Dean (?) the other\nday. I don't want the President to think we hadn't done it.\nK: No, he knows. Joe asked me and I just thought we should reiterate it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nTimmons/Kissinger\n5:55 pm\n4/7/70\nK: I wanted to check about the foreign military sales bill. I have been talking\nto the Ambassaodr of Iran. Their fiscal year starts now and part of their\nbudget is based on a memo with us of $100 million. Anything you can do to\nspeed it up?\nT: I think so.\nK: I know the President is anxious to help the Shah.\nT: I will go to bat on it and let you know.\nK: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nGerard Smith\n4/7/70 7:05 p.m.\nS: Has the problem about ah alternate mission for Apollo 13\ncome to your attention?\nK: What are you talking about?\nS: A contingency plan for Apollo 13, and I vote against it\nand I think our friend Dick does too.\nK: Dick who?\nS: Dick Helms.\nK: What are you talking about?\nS: I think you are chairman of a committee that's involved in\nit. It will come to you.\nK: Oh yes. It's going to come to me. I'm not going to favor\nit. It's a bad time to do it.\nS: I agree.\nK: We know we can take pictures of the Soviet Union.\nS: I agree.\nK: Gerry, I occasionally support you, and you will know it\nwhen the President votes for Option A.\nS: Okay, I just wanted to check.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nAmb. Dobrynin\n4/7/70; 8:22 p.m.\nK: I understand you are going back to the Soviet Union.\nD: It's not quite clear, but a strong possibility.\nK: I think if there is a strong possibility I will change my dinner tomor-\nrow night and have dinner with you.\nD: Does that suit you better?\nK: Thursday would suit me better, but if there is a chance you will be\ngoing away.\nD: I am awaiting the second confirmation.\nK: Why don't I say I will come tomorrow night.\nD: Right, tomorrow night -- - - 8:00 p.m.\nK: We can discuss the subject you wanted to\nD: We will have a Aviltle quiet evening alone.\nK: You will agree to every proposition to leave a good impression (laughter).\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nCongressman Chamberlin\n4/8/70 12:00\nC: I come from central Michigan in an area adjacent to Gerry\nFord's. Gerry invites industry people, mayors, and so forth down\nhere for lunch onee a year and after lunch we have seminars. It's\ngoing to be on May 19 this year. We've had acceptances from Rog\nMorton, Secretary Finch and M€Crackin. We always have had high\ncaliber people. But we're weak this year on anything with international\nflavor. I talked to Bryce to see if the thought you would entertain an\ninvitation to meet with this group. I know you'd be very well received\nif you thought you could meet with them for half an hour or 45 minutes\nand reserve a few minutes to answer their questions.\nK: I will do my best. Could you drop me a note abo ut it?\nC: Certainly.\nK: It's easier for me to do it here.\nC: Good. We could bring our people to the White House to see\nyou in the morning. We would be limited to about an hour in the White\nHouse area.\nK: I will get David Young to work with you on this.\nC: I would appreciate it if you would have David Young give me\na call.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. Dobrynin/Kissinger\n12:22 pm\n4/8/70\nD: I wanted to tell you that I'm leaving early Friday. If it's convenient\ntoday, I will drop by today. Or tomorrow. It's up to you. You are much\nmore busy. If today, I would like to come before 6:00 I have the\nPolish Ambassador coming then. Or tomorrow whenever it's convenient\nfor you.\nK: I prefer a little more tomorrow.\nD: 12:00 or 3:00?\nK: How about 11:00? I'm going to Camp David for that other thing you\nmade me miss for lunch. I have XXXX answers for you on two points and one\nother point.\nD: 11:00. x The usual way?\nK: The diplomatic entrance.\nwith your bare hands.\nD: You know now how to catch a tiger/ You need a pair of good tigers at\nCamp David.\nK: I will take on a Leopard first. If I know your government, after I go\nthrough all this they will not give me an export license.\nWith my bare\nhands? I knew you wished me well.\nD: I will teach you. You are a strong man. OK, I will be there at 11:00.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHenry Cabot Lodge/Kissinger\n12:33 pm\n4/8/70\nL: Last Thurs. morning Herb Klein and Colson, at the request of the\nPresident, I think, flew up to see me about an article for the Reader's\nDigest on ABM -- a subject I am not an expert on. They had Charles\nMurphy with them. The article they brought was ? ?????. I\nhave re-written the article and send it down and they are re-doing my\ndraft and will send it up tonight and I will re-write that. I will send it\nto you to see if it's ok.\nK: I will look at it.\nL: I am SO close to the President, running with him for V. P., that should\nget his hands on it and find gaping holes it will make him look\nbad. If you say it's all right, my confidence is unlimited.\nK: I appreciate it and I will look it over carefully.\nL: I will mail it to you and you will know what it is.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMilton Katz/Kissinger\n3:20 pm\n4/8/70\nMK: I'm putting together a list of what hopefully will be three lawyers.\nThey will have the following qualificantions: They will be from the\nsouth, menn of integrity and impeccable quality, and ?????. I\nwant to give them to someone who can put them on thePresident's desk.\nK: I can do that.\nMK: Yourself?\nK: Myself or John Ehrlichman.\nMK: I want to be guided by you. One of my colleagues knows Ehrlichman\nand he could send the list to him.\nK: Send it to me. The best way to get it to Ehrlichman's attention is through\nme. I know the sprix spirit in which you are making that suggestion.\nMK: My own view is that it's in the national interest to maintain his\nleadership and he needs help right now.\nK: I understand your spirit and I appreciate it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelCon\n4/8/70: 6:35 p.m.\nGerard Smith\nS: If it would be of any help I would be glad to volunteer to draft a\nNSDM. I understand that would be the next thing in order. If it\nwill be of any use.\nK: Why don't you do that as long as you don't scream if it doesn't\nget carried out.\nS: I understand - this is merely a voluntary submission.\nK: I would appreciate it.\nS: Good.\nms\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nD. Chapin/Kissinger\n7:00 pm 4/8/70\nK: Somebody told me the President is going to the West Coast from the\n23rd to the 3rd.\nC: Or the 24th to the 3rd.\nK: I will go along? I suppose when it's such a long time.\nC: Yes.\nK: Which is more likely? Some of my plans depend on it.\nC: Probably around noon on the 24th.\nK: I was planning on taking my children I might take my children to the\nWest Coast for a few days. They are crazy about that.\nC: Sure.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\ntelcon\nPUGA/KISSINGER\n11:12 am\n4/9/70\n(Mr. Puga is the manager of the Metro Club)\nK: I want a private dinner for Saturday night.\nP: I talked to David Young last night. We have a rule that we must talk to the\nmember and not just anyone.\nK: That's right and I understand. Between 8 and 10?\nP: I have a small dining room for 10.\nK: We can do that as late as 8:30? Drinks at 8:30 and dinner at 9:00?\nP: We XXXXX close the dining room at 9:00.\nK: Thenwe will keep that in mind. We will have drinks at 8:00 and dinner\nat 8:30.\nP: Reservations for room #2 for Sat., April 11.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nRogers/Kissinger\n7:00 p.m. 4-9-70\nR: Ted Eliot was saying Al pointed out Dobrynin came in to say\ngood bye. I'm curious. When he left he didn't sound like he is leaving\nfor good.\nK: No. He left me with the impression he is coming back -- early in\nMay.\nR: That was the impression I got.\nK: The only point he wanted to make was that they were negotiating\nseriously. I said fine.\nR: What about the Middle East?\nK: Yes, about the Middle East. We didn't get into any other subject.\nThe only area about which he talked was the Middle East and he said\nhe made a number of proposals to Joe.\nR: They want a respite while they put the SAMs in.\nK: He said they offered the conditions of peace.\nR: They really have not.\nK: He wasn't willing to put it on paper until he could get an agreement.\nHe thought Joe was a tough negotiator. He said nothing about SALT.\nHe said do we want qualitative or quantitative controls. It was the only\nthing on that. Otherwise, it was just really garbage. I asked would\nthere be changes in the relationship. He said not before September.\nNothing has changed with China. They will continue to negotiate on the\nMiddle East.\nR: They want us to put everything on paper.\nK: We can't press the Israelis while they put in SA-3s. The only point\nis that they seriously want to settle that.\nR: Very little give.\nK: I didn't get the impression he came in with a particular demarche.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nRogers/Kissinger\n7:00 p.m. 4-9-70\n:\n- 2 -\nR: It will be interesting to see if there is a change of government.\nIt could happen after Lenin's birthday.\nK: Told Ted Eliot the President asked me to go up to Camp David\nto make Brandt feel good. He had Mosbacher there. It was a\nmurderous helicopter ride. (Brandt) gave me a list of things he is\ngoing to discuss- -- mutual balanced force reductions.\nR: I think we ought to encourage that.\nK: We should do careful preparation.\nR: We have to see a little more. The Soviet Union won't have anything\nto do with it. The Soviet Union won't enter into discussions about it.\nThe Germans have the idea we are\nit.\nK: Bahr came in the other day.\nR: I think the President should emphasize to Brandt this is a program\nwe are for. If we do this and it doesn't work we can keep troops there (?).\nOtherwise the Mansfield thing will carry through.\nK: The President is going along with lines of the memo you sent.\nR: How is his frame of mind?\nK: Apathy and\n.\nR: See you tomorrow.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nStans/Kissinger\n7:45 p.m. 4-9-70\nK: He would like to go in general (along) with your approach but soften\nit somewhat. Work it out with Alex Johnson.\nS: Soften it up somewhat.\nK: There isn't a prayer that this could be accepted.\nS: Did you see the cable today? Extremely interesting. That the\nJapanese were preparing a new proposal which would abandon the\nmoratorium idea and arrange for a settlement on the basis of eight\nspecific categories.\nK: That's what Yoshino and I talked about.\nS: The whole deal may be they just went through this ex\nto show\nit won't work.\nK: I think so. Let's wait a week.\nS: I am going to South America next Thursday.\nK: Who can speak for you?\nS: Stanley Neiman (sp? )\nK: Is he mean?\nS: No\nK: You are tough.\nS: He is tough. He will stand up and talk with Johnson.\nI think we ought to wait to see what the Japanese come up with. We\ncould think about going to Japan and sitting down. I would like to see\nMiasawa. A man who worked for me at the Bureau of the Budget knows\nhim. Would make sense to sit down and talk with them.\nK: When will you be back.\nS: May 1.\nK: Next week could you come up with a softened version of your proposal\nso we have that in our armory?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nStans/Kissinger\n7:45 p.m. 4-9-70\n-2-\nS: Sit tight and see if they come up with something.\nS: On the trip to South America, the President said to talk with Rogers\nand Kissinger about briefing. I've talked with State (and several other\nagencies). Is there something you or your people could add?\nK: I doubt it but let me send in my man on Latin America.\nS: What's his name?\nK: Pete Vaky.\nS: Ask him to call me tomorrow. I have meetings tomorrow morning but\nwould like to see him.\nK: If you find he isn't adding anything just\n.\nMy feelings won't\nbe hurt.\nS: Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nPresident/Kissinger\n8:05 p.m.\n4-9-70\nK: Mr. President\nP: Henry, when you see the Chancellor , I would like for you to tell him\nthat I will speak very briefly because I think the people want to hear from\nhim. I will just welcome him. I'll speak for about a minute and a half.\nK: If I might suggest a little longer\nabout German-American friend-\nship. He would notice if you talked less. You have the list of things\nhe is planning to raise with you in those memos I gave you. One of the\n(memos concerns) the mutual balanced force reductions.\nP: Handle like SALT with careful preparation.\nK: Incidentally, Le Duc Tho has gone back to Hanoi. The end of his\ninstructions and he needs new ones.\nP: What's the situation about helping the Cambodians? We are not\ndoing anything.\nK: Matter with the Japanese is moving on the way already.\nP: They are going to do it. Be sure we get the funds to them.\nK: They have asked the Commanding General\nGeneral Nol's brother\nhas asked for supplies.\nP: Get it to them! I will get you a continuous\nto them. I don't\nwant State or anybody else. We will do this.\nK: I saw Rabin this morning. On Dobrynin\nI told him we wanted to work\noutside the UN framework.\nP: Same place?\nK: I think that's premature.\nP: You told him we need some help on Vietnam!\nK: I said that we were very eager to face the Middle East. I said once\nVietnam was settled we would take a beating on the Middle East.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPresident/Kissinger\n8:05 p.m. 4-9-70\nP: When is he coming back?\nK: The first week in May.\nP: That will be very interesting. They are having a hell of a time over\nthere.\nK: I also discussed the SALT procedure with him.\nP: You make the deal! Smith\n.\nK: Comprehensive proposal. We can ask for on-site inspections.\nYour domestic doves will scream.\nP: Do it!\nK: We can't have a MIRV ban. We will be driven to discuss it. I think\nwe ought to present it with the alternative of reductions. (If an alternative\nhas the doves hollering? ) we can say we are willing to reexamine it.\nP: I talked to Lynn.\nK: I appreciate that.\nP: He is a fine man. Only 32. I said you can't walk out just when\nwe are going to crack a few things.\nK: The only indispensable man we have.\nP: For any man you need.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nPresident/Kissinger\n8:15 p.m.\n4-9-70\nK: Mr. President\nP; Call Laird and see if it would be useful for us to go to the Pentagon\ntomorrow to have lunch with the Joint Chiefs and himself.\nK: The idea is a nice thought.\nP: I think it's a good idea. You call and we will work it out for\neither tomorrow or Monday.\nK: Then I will lay it on for Monday.\nP: Just going to the Pentagon is good. We went to State.\nK: There's a new Chairman on Wednesday. Say something\ngracious about Wheeler.\nP: I will.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMr. Kissinger\nSecretary Laird\n9:00 p. m., April 9, 1970\nL:\nHow are you Henry.?\nK:\nI'm fine Mel. I was just checking up to see if you are behaving\nyourself. I was just talking to the President and he thought in\nview of the announcement you wanted to make next week on\nWheeler that he would come over for lunch with the Chiefs on\nMonday.\nL:\nI think that would be good and we could make the announcement\non Tuesday or on Monday after the lunch. I think the announce-\nment should be made at the White House and we should then\nhave a press conference over here.\nK:\nWhy don't we make the announcement on Tuesday and have the\nlunch on Monday?\nL:\nI think that is wonderful Henry.\nK:\nWell they need a shot in the arm. Is the new CNO going to be in\ntown?\nL:\nHe will be here. I will have him in for the lunch. And I will have\nall the Chiefs.\nK:\nAnd unless you object, I will come along. Will you set it up?\nL:\nI will set it up. We can have it at 1:00 p.m.\nK:\nLet's say 1:00 p.m.\nL:\nI think it is very thoughtful.\nK:\nI think they all deserve it.\nL:\nWe will have you, Dave, the Chiefs, the President, the new CNO\nand that is all.\nK:\nGood. Fine.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nProfessor Katz\n4/10/70 8:55 a. m.\nK: Inlight of the President's statement, I suppose that the\nsituation has changed. But I am going to drop in the mail to you\na brief letter containing three names. I regret his statement\nvery much.\nKK: It's inside the three-mile limit so it's out of my area.\nK: I understand. It's a bare bones statement. I wanted to\nhave it in your hands just in case. I'm in town today.\nHK: Oh, are you?\nK: From 10:30 to 5:00 I'm chairing a meeting at\n.\nHK: When are you leaving?\nK: 6:30 tonight.\nHK: Well then it won't work\nK: No, I didn't mean that I should see you.\nHK: No, you're one of the few pwople I really want to see.\nI might be free around 3:30 this afternoon.\nK: I could perhaps come then. Why don't I give you a call\nthen. I'll hold this things until then and then I may be able to give\nit to you.\nHK: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHayes Redmon/Kissinger\n9:50 am\n4/10/70\nR: Right now I'm in a big meeting with the boss so it's hard to talk. We have\na slight problem Fortune article of March. It said Dr.\nwould\ncontribute $15, 000 to the Democrats. The largest skigx single contributor.\nIt's not true. I have a letter from the editor and the managing editor,\napologizing. This is not in your area and I told the boss he wants the\nPresident to know it isn't so. We could go through Hess, Dubridge or you.\nK: Not through Hess.\nR: I spoke to both Adam and Dick. I gathered that Hess wasn't exactly in\nthe right spot. The boss doesn't want you involved.\nK: Steve won't help you. Send me copies of those and I will get them to our\npolitical people\nR: Are you bearing up?\nK: What do they say at Harvard?\nR: I keep reading about the secret swinger.\nK: I was that charming two years ago but I didn't have that impact on women.\nPower must have something to do with it. Give me a call if you are ever down\nthis way.\nR: I will be down next month.\nK: Give me a call and give my best to your wife.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nG. Smith/Kissinger\n2:35 pm\n4/10/70\nK: After agonizing over this thing since the meeting, here's what the President\nwants to do. I am sending xxx XX over an NSDM. He wants you to apporve\nC & D as a comprehensive approach. He thinks personally he could agree more\neasily to A or D but he thinks this is the best comprehensive opening position.\nS: What about the verification aspects.\nK: He wants a hold put on C. He wants to say this is V how C looks to us.\nAnother way would be through D. C with the on-site inspection.\nS: All right.\nK: He has had your thing before him and he has really akk@wxplished agonized\nover this one. Monday he would have said A or B but he said if he says B they\nwill say MIRV and then what do you say? We know under no conditions are\nwe???????\nS: This apprentix approximates what he said this morning.\nK: Yes. I wanted to give you advance warning. On the private meetings,\nwhich you will no doubt have, he wants you to do that but if it's xxt in writing\nit looks like he is asking you to go outside your delegation.\nS: It will be fully reported.\nK: Yes, of course, and you won't be doing it three times a week to the\nexclusion of the others.\nS: Do you know when the delegation will meet with the President?\nK: 10:15 tomorrow morning.\nS: IxQx 10:15. I want to bring Brown and Jeff Parsons.\nK: I haven't an answer on Parsons --\nS: The Secretary apparently talked to him because the Secretary told me it\nwas all right.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n2:45 pm\n4/10/70\nK: I just wanted to tell you before we send over the paper where the President\nhas come out on this SALT business, it is along the lines of what you said.\nHe wants Gerry to press option C or option D as an alternative with less\nstrict inspection, k Then he feels we can fall back on some of the more\nlimited options. If we start with those and they ask about MIRV, we will\nbe taken back into those. What would be helpful because it's in the\nNSDM if you would send over your views on the tactics.\nR: Option 4 should be held in abeyance until the second or thrird session.\nThey will not accept it.\nK:????????\nR: On inspection, I hope he doesn't make on=site a condition.\nK: He does on MIRV but not on the other.\nR: The trouble with on-site -- if we say at the ? ? ? ? ? it will seem ? ? ?\nK: If you don't make it a numerical\n.\nR: On the MIRV, does he have a number of on-site?\nK: No, that's negotiable.\nR: I think we should include on-site if it's not a pre-condition.\nK: In the play between MIRV and ABM it's so direct.\nR: I agree. Furthermore, I think we have to keep in mind that on things\nof this kind we have to negotiate as they do. Otherwise, we are at a dis-\nadvantage.\nK: That's right.\nR: I just don't understand people like McGeo. Bundy saying we have to make\na unilateral position. They will think we are soft-headed and will be suspicious.\nK: /? ? ? ? not knowing what's hapening. Particularly communists to whom\nyou make concessions only to reality -- is it a trick or drastics domestic\npressure.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nRogers/Kissinger\n2:45 pm\n4/10/70\n-2-\nR: I spoke to the Pr esident about adding Jeff Parsons to the delegation. I\nspoke to him and he V said it was ok. Gerry will have to get him from the\nm ilitary but that should not be a problem. Gerry had a time problem so\nafter the Brandt meeting, I asked him.\nK: Good, if you have already done that, it's good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nThe Vice President\n4/10/70; 3:45 p.m.\nA: Are you very fluent with the German?\nK: Oh, yes, I speak it with a great South German accent.\nA: Somebody sent me an article from Deutsch Spiegle by Brandt.\nK: About you?\nA: Yes, and Brandt explains the word for news to be good news,\nbad news and Agnews. This doesn't sound very flattering to me.\nK: Well, you know he is not the brightest man in the world.\nA: It is just a little box here. If I send it over will you give me\na translation? I would like to have it before I see him tomorrow.\nK: If you send it over I will translate it.\nA: It's just a little piece. Are you aware ot it?\nK: I don't read that newspaper. It is scurrilous and left-wing.\nBrandt himself is OK but some of his associates are not the most\npalatable people, particularly that reptile Barh, his chief foreign policy\nadviser, who you will have on the plane with you. You will have me\non the plane also.\nA: Oh, I didn't know that. This article doesn't sound very flattering\nto me. First is plain news, then bad news and then worst news. It's\nthe gradation of it. I will send it over to you.\nms\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSecy Stans/Kissinger\n5:30 pm\n4/10/70\nS: I want to tell you I met with Johnson this afternoon and we sent over this\ndocument. I got him aside from Trezise and said I was concerned about the\ndevelopments in the next week or two. We were working together and now\nhe suddenly wants to run and reach the end of it. I said I thought we were at\nthe end of the road and I didn't want him to feel he had to go running to the\nPresident again for new instructions. So I akked him what now. ???\nnot\nK: We are/sending a meesage until we here from Meyer?\nS: Meyer is just reporting rumors.\nK: I had better call this character tonight.\nWhat's the document?\nS: Reduce down to 66 for man-mades and 5 persent above \"69. A few\nmodifications to what we brought over there. He has agreed to that,\nFurther, I said I am going out of the country and I would hate to come back\nand find overtures to the Japanese different to this and embarrasing to the\nindustry and President. He said he x wouldn't do anything while I was in\nSouth America but I want this thing protected.\nK: I will watch it for you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nMr. Kissinger\nThe President\n4/10/70; 11:55 p.m.\nP: What did you think of that? (Brandt dinner and entertainment)\nK: I thought it was a great evening.\nP: It had a certain lift. Wasn't she great?\nK: She was great! The little touches you made were just right!\nP: It worked.\nK: I thought your toast to him was very gracious that thing about\nKiesinger.\nP: That came out of our staff I gave them credit. Wasn't that Bailey\nreally great?\nK: The way she stepped on the stage and took over.\nP: Didn't you have the feeling that your German friends were thrilled?\nIt was a special evening.\nK: Also gave them a feeling about this country where someone could talk\nto the President this way and yet do it with enormous respect.\nP: Also, which is not insignificant, by a black person.\nK: I hope the newspapers will write about it.\nP: She has the chair she is taking it with her onthe plane. I told Haldeman.\n(speaking about Brandt) - He is going down on the flight, how can we get\nthrough with our talk?\nK: He is leaving at 10:30 -- meeting with you at 9:00. There should be\nenough time.\nP: I think we have put our arms around him nicely enough.\nK: Yes, you have. We have to be careful not to discourage the Christian\nDemocrats. You have not said anything about supporting their politics --\nyou have done that nicely.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nKissinger/President\n4/10/70; 11:55 p.m.\n-2-\nP: I couldn't believe that person Bahr ! !\nK: You had a chance to say hello to him.\nP: That was enough! !\nK: Schmidt.\nP: I liked him. Our going over to Defense was a master stroke.\nK: They needed it.\nP: Laird liked the idea.\nK: I called him in Mississippi. He was moved. He is in worse trouble\nover there than I have bothered you with.\nP: (I did not understand the first statement.) I will not preside over\nthe U. S. becoming No. 2.\nP: You will be gone tomorrow?\nK: I will be gone after the Brandt meeting.\nP: Okay, Henry, I will see you before that.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nGerard Smith\nApril 11, 8:40 a. m.\nS: I wanted to touch base with you about points on Option D. It seems\nto me that if we just present it to Mac on Tuesday we are going to run\ninto a good deal of flak. I would suggest that we study and prepare a paper\nlooking at it from the North Atlantic Alliance point of view.\nK: Don't we apply\nS: We are not talking of reducing them. We are talking about changing its\nK: I see the point.\nS: I am only bringing it up because Nitae may want to table it right away.\nI would like to mention soon or C first which might take a couple\nof weeks and in the meantime get our ducks in a row. I could then go\ndown to Brussels and present it to\nWilly has only touched very\nlightly on this. I think it will come as a surprise if we say we are going\nto go ahead and table it.\nK; Use it as a tactical point as long as the Soviets understand. I talked\nto Bill about it yesterday. What the President has in mind we say our\nbest judgment after exhaustive studies is this. On the other hand we\nrecognize a certain intrusiveness about it. Therefore we are willing to\nconsider another approach which is less intrusive. We don't want to get\ninto position where that is the only subject discussed.\nagree.\nS: I understand. I would sax I don't have to table either of them. First\ngo into C, also discuss this. I would just like to feel I had a margin on\nthem.\nK: We would have to be guided by your conscience as long as you understand\nthat we don't want to have to hold discussions focused on C and that the\nRussians understand that there is an alternative approach that is also going\nto be presented. At what point you do that I will leave to you.\nS: That is fine.\nK: Our thought was that we should give you the widest package.\nS: I am very satisfied with this change, Henry. First rate.\nK: Good, Gerry. You have really been a good soldier.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nS: I will see you in Vienna perhaps.\nK: Yes. I may drop in there sometime. I am going down to the Moon\nshot so you won't see me this morning.\nms\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nDr. Lynn\n4/11/70\n9:45 a.m.\nK: Larry, where did I get you?\nL: At home.\nK; Jesus Christ! Did I wake you up.\nL: No, that's all right.\nK: Incidentally, I will be glad, as I told you, to arrange a vacation\nfor you in the Bahamas and it won't cost you much. I think they will\njust charge you $10-$15 a day. Would you take your children?\nL: I haven't thought about that.\nK: It is a great place and they are friends of the President.\nL: I will certainly think about that Henry. I just haven't gotten to\nthat point.\nK: I have been reading that long memo you did on the\nissues.\nDo I have to take any action on that? Because I agree with\nL: If you agree with what we stated in the text, that''s it.\nK: I agreed with it. I read it and I think you all did a superb job.\nL: Walt Slocombe has done marvelous work.\nK: What you have got to do if you stay is reorganize:your staff;\ncreate divisions and put him in charge of one of them.\nL: I will probably do that because he is good enough. He works extremely\nhard.\nK: We have got to do something about SIOP and about the Intelligence\nBoard too. I shouldnit be spread thin. It doesn't take any action on\nmy part. You will be glad to know Gerry Smith is ill because he\ndoesn't want to present any reduction options. He figures it will take\nhim weeks to present Option C. He just doesn't want to feel obliged\nto present D before he presents C. Can I let him have that?\nL: I think so. The intent is he really has to get through both before\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nhe makes any larger proposals.\nK: Will you make a draft on Monday? He should systematically\npresent all of C then he can present all of D.\nL: Should this be a private memo from you to him?\nK: Yes, and I will present an information copy to Rogers.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSANITIZED COPY\nTelcon\nProf. Rostow (Walt)\n4/11/70\n9:55 a. m.\nK: Sorry I haven't had a chance to get back to you. President Johnson\nbehaved like a gentleman and apatriot.\nR: All I wanted to tell you was the message was delivered.\nK: He did it with such skill. Brought it up in such a really beautiful way.\nOnly a President knows what really bugs another President.\nR: He is a strongly sensitive man which is so different from the image.\nI hope it went well.\nK: He did it beautifully and it came at a crucial moment.. Walt, when\nyou come up I will fill you in on it. I think we are within months of some\nmajor decision on their part.\nR: I believe that. As I look at it, one, they don't like the casualties they\nare taking. They are feeding in new bodies reluctantly - some sort of\npressure back home. They are getting tired of being a footstool. It is\nbeginning to strain them. Second, Cambodia is a mortal matter for them.\nThird, unless they go all the way to Vientiane and Mekong, their horsing\naround in Laos is something they can only use for negotiating purposes.\nK: They know they have to launch a major campaign.\nR: And they have to feel that if they go to the Mekong you have something\nup your sleeve.\nK: That message has gotten across.\nR: What Hanoi is doing in Southeast Asia is creating out of that area in\nCambodia and Laos an ethnic nationalism.\nK: I have been considering taking Marshal Wright on my staff. Would that\nbe a good decision?\nR: I found him bright and courageous. The first sign I ever had of him was\nwhen we were visiting Thailand and he stood up against the Ambassador for\na certain line Johnson took in a speech. He is a rare Foreign Service\nofficer because he combined professionality with guts and discretion.\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, as amended, Sect 3.5\n3.3(b)(1)3.5(c) PerLtr March 11,2009\nBy PGH\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nNARA, Date 4-3-09\nDECLASSIFIED\nSANITIZED COPY\nThis document has been reviewed.pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\n-2-\nK: With analytical knowledge?\nSANITIZED COPY\nR: Yes.\nK: What I have in mind - I find\nvery difficult. He is an all-out\nArabist and I can't get him to present a fair picture to the President.\nI am not asking him to present a pro-Israeli one, I just don't want\nevery memo loaded in one direction. If the President wants to give arms\nto Pakistan I don't want that shuttled around the bureaucracy for months.\nI have been thinking of sending him back\nWhat do you think?\nR: I didn't find working with him that bad. I would not have described\nas a pro-Arabist. Things may have happened and only you can\nmake the judgment. I think that as a professional Foreign Service\nofficer Marshal could pick up the account and rise to it. That is funda-\nmental, you have got to be comfortable in your people.\nK: I just don't know whether Wright can pick him up.\nPer Sec. 3.3(b)(1)\nR: I regard him as a very bright officer. I think he will pick things\nup fast. His ties have been with the Far East.\nSANITIZED\nK: Right now\nserves my purpose, but for the wrong reasons.\nR: Let me ask you just one question. What I found in dealing with\nI found\na man of very fine character and loyalty. Therefore when\nPresident Johnson took a certain view, I would say this is the way the\nPresident wants it. Have you had a chance to talk to\nand tell\nhim what you want?\nK: Yes, and we have some copies of memos of very high classification\nthat he xx has been passing to people.\nR: If he has come into that relationship with you whom he must serve,\nyou must get rid of him. Marshal Wright is a fellow of integrity,\nexperience, skill, who can pick up the accounting fast. So I wouldn't\nworry about that. Have you had a chance to talk to Marshal?\nK: Yes.\nR: If you are comfortable with him it may be a good idea to take a fresh\nman into the Middle East.\nms\nSANITIZED COPY\n(NLN07-31/14: P 2062]\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident/Kissinger\n10:20 am\n4/13/70\nThe essence of the conversation was that the P President wanted to hold\na meeting at 10:00 on Monday (notetaker didn;t hear first part of conversation)\nand that the \"NSC meeting will be kept where it is. PI The President stressed\nthat he wanted Mr. Kissinger to tell \"Gerry to keep absolutely quiet\" because\nhe xxxxx wants to get to the leaders before any discussion.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLaird/Kissinger\n10:23 am\n4/13/70\nK: The President doesn't really Cabinet want to meet the civilian secretaries if it\ncan be avoided. He has an MSC meeting at 3:00.\nL: I talked to him and IXIX just a xxxx cup of coffee after lunch.\nK: He knows but now he regrets it.\nL: I have invited them from 2 - 2:15. I can call if off. I was going to have\nxtxafter the luncheon, then a xxpxxxx cup of coffee and then he could leave by\n2:30. He wants to meet with Zumwalt doesn't he? I flew him in and have him\nhidden away here.\nK: For two or three minutes.\nL: I have Foster, the service secretaries and the assistant secretaries coming\nin for coffee.\nK: How late can youcall them off? Let me talk to him again. He hates to run\nfrom one appointment to the other. He gets exuberant and then regrets it.\nL: He said he wanted a few key civilians so I invited 8 or 9. But I can call\nif off.\nK: I am seeing him with Kendall and I can bring it up again.\nL: I can start it earlier so he can get out by 2:15.\nK: He wants a good session with the Chiefs.\nL: If you want me to cancel out I said I didn't think the key civilian people\nshould come in with the Chiefs. So I set up this coffee.\nK: I will talk to him and you can cancel in an hour from now. Maybe we can\ncut it How down to 10 mins and 5 mins. with Zumwalt. Zumwalt he has to see.\nL: I flew him in here and have him hidden in the building.\nK: The idea is to have the announcement made tomorrow and then you follow\nit up.\nL: We will have a meeting at 11:00 and then pixtures. The President would\nget tied up too long if he has to meet with them and bring the press in.\nK: Let me talk to him.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nMcNamara/Kissinger\n10:37 am\n4/13/70\nM: I called Larry Lynn as I said I would. I found him practically set and\nconcrete. He said he had gone so far in his plans with Stanford it would be\nembarrasing to change them. I said it would be embarassing to the President\nif he didn't change them. I gave him a real sales pitch. I said he would be\nleaving a vaccum and his absence would be a great\nto you.\nK: We have brought SALT to a point which we could not have done without\nthat systems analyses.\nM: After I got through, he said he would reconsider. If there's anything\nelse, let me know.\nK: He hasn't said anything to me yet but if you think another talk would help - --\nbut you seem to have said everything that would matter.\nM: At one point he said he was shaken and would re-consider. He said\neventually he would like to return to government and he wondered if a future\ngovernment would tar him if he stayed on this. I told him that a thing that would\ntar him would be to walk out in the middle.\nK: I'm the one taking the policy rap.\nM: I said that ?????\nK: I don't believe it will hurt him.\nM: I don't either and it will expand his experience. Some of the things he\nhas worked on will come to fruition in the next year.\nK: His role is that of an analyst and he won't suffer.\nIDA\nM: Keep me informed. The second point is the problem of the 3rd idea\nreplenishment (?).\nK: I haven't had a full read out but I don't think it was raised. I could call\nthe Germany Ambassad or and say it wasn't reaised but should have been.\nM: I think it's damn important because xixxx there's a meeting tomorrow\nbetween ? ? ? in Bonn.\nK: I will call Pauls and be sure to rais e it.\nM: It's possible that Rogers brought it up with him.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLaird/Kissinger\n10:45 am\n4/13/70\nL: I have been thinking about this and because of the time I will call those\npeople and slip that out of there.\nK: Let me talk to him.\nL: With Assit. Secretaries and\nit might be too much for him. We\ncan slip that out.\nK: Let me tell him you are willing to cancel it. Do you gain anything in an\nhour? IT\nL: No.\nK: I will tell him you are not putting pressure on him.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nVice President/Kissinger\n10:55 am\n4/13/70\nVP: Are you busy at lunch today?\nK: I'm going xxixx with the President to the Pentagon. Could we do it tomorrow?\nVP: I will be gone the rest of the week. Are you busy at the present time?\nK: I'm waiting to see the President with Don Kendall, the Pepsi-Cola fellow.\nThen I might be free for half an hour between that and 12:00.\nVP: I want to discuss foreign travel for me of a limited sort and then something\nmore extensive after Congress is out of session. If you have half and hour free\nbetween now and lunch time give me a call. If I don't hear from you, I will\nknow you got boxed in. I leave for Des Moines shortly after noon.\nK: I will do my damnedest.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFarley/Kissinger\n5:00 pm 4113/70\nK: I wanted to check with you about what instructions everybody has for\npress relations. Is the nature of our position going to suffer?\nF: Of course, on the negative side you reitereated the side on avoidance\nleaks. We have no public posture we want to show. We have been reluctant\n??????. Gerry had no contact with the Soviets.\nK: The President is thinking of some Congressional briefing next week. He\nwants to make sure there's no leak before that.\nF: He made that positive.\nK: He doesn't want any discussion between a leak (?) and backgrounding.\nHe considers them the same. If there's any backgrounding done, we will\ndiscuss it with you first.\nF: Gerry decissiex decided not to have a backgrounder this time. I will talk\nwith him this evening.\nK: You have our thing on the NATO consultation (?).\nF: There will be no troude at all. I have talked with Larry and he will work\nup an analytic piece and we can work it into the schedule in Vienna.\nK: Good and thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Stans\n4/13/70 6:30 p.m.\nK: That menace Kendall was in here today. How did he find out\nabout this?\nS: I guess from Flanigan.\nK: I want Flanigan out of this picture.\nS: Ithink he should be.\nK: Kendall thinks he has a Presidential charter to browbeat you.\nI am here to tell you that's nonsense.\nS: I'm glad toy did. I'm having lunch with him on\n.\nK: So just hang tough.\nS: I was prepared to tell him that I'm not going along with any of\nhis plans.\nK: It's quite obvious now that Kendall screwed the whole thing up.\nThat weekend that they were about to agree, he came in and told them\nhis plan was better. He proudly told this to the President. Believe me,\nthe President was not amused.\nS: It's too bad he got into the act.\nK: We had it practically done. He made it impossible for SAto to\noverrule the people he had to overrule. How did he know about the new\nproposal?\nS K: From Flanigan I guess.\nK: What's his interest in this?\nS: I don't know.\nK: I am going to cal 1 Flanigan right now.\nS: Yes, but remember that I deal with him every day.\nK: Yes.\nS: I'm just going to tell him we can't buy it.\nK: Just tell him you want him out of it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nLaird/Kissinger\n9:52 am 4/14/70\nK: Two things -- in the light of the space problem, do you think we should\ngo with the announcement on the Joint Chiefs today?\nL: We have to because we have told the Sexodate Senate today. The space thing --\nthese are very routine from the WH. I got Mrs. Smith and Stennis aboard this\nmorning at 8:30 -- it will leak. I got Rivers -- everybody aboard.\nK: The President is upset re these articles of 60 - 70,000\nL: I haven't seen it.\nK: That you were overruling the Joint Chiefs and he had to back you up.\nL: We denied over here that this was discussed. Ron mentioned it but I don't\nthink we should say we discussed it.\nK: If you would shut it off. He may not be able to make his speech XIXX on Thurs.\nand may have to wait until next week.\nL: Nothing with the Joint Chiefs so long as we move out by June 15.\nK: ?????\nL: I asked you if I should go into detail.\nK: Your memo came down for 40. No problem with that.\nL: If we program that out before the 15th -- If they enter the DMZ it's a\ndifficult problem. They won't come across that.\nK: The meeting yesterday brought that into sharp focus. ????\nL: We are not doing that over here. We willx are holding down on that thing.\nWe should deny that VN was discussed. But Ron indicated that it was something\nwe wanted to discuss.\nK: It was primarily to pay tribute to the Chiefs and give you some support. You\nwanted me after the meeting yesterday --\nL: My probelm was that Ehrlichman wanted me to bring up at that meeting the\nfact that Mitchell, Rogers, and myself met on nuclear storage. They came\ndown on the fact that I should brief the Foreign Relations Committee where\nnuclear warheads (?) are stored.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLaird/Kissinger\n9:52 am\n4/14/70\n-2-\nK: They're crazy. Ehrlichman came on that?\nL: I told them I couldn't say where in the countries they are stored but that if they\nwanted me to give the names of the countries where they were, I would. The\nSoviets already know that. But that won't satisfy them.\nK: They want to know the agreements.\nL: I will be glad to give them the countries -- you understand that that won't\nsatisfy them. I will tell Ehrlichman that I didn't bring them up.\nK: I will talk to Ehrlichman. That's not right.\nL: I have a briefing I can put together but I said then to understand it's not\nwhat the Committee is interested in.\nK: They want to know under what conditions we have txxxx them there.\nL: Yesterday was not the propoer forum.\nK: You were right. OK, I will talk to Ehrlichman.\nL: I have a call into him so I may speak to him.\nK: What do you think of the space probelm?\nL: It's serious. We maybe able to bring if off. There's enough oxygen to bring\nthem back but they will have to be very careful.\nK: The electricity.\nL: It's the oxygen. They have do get into the re-entry vehicle.\nK: We shouldn't go on Thurs. night, should we?\nKL: I don't think SO off the top of my head.\nK: Hold it that he is even thinking of delaying it.\nL: As far as these stories are concerned I don't know who is doing things like that\nK: I will call Bill too for security. You know what the numbers are going to be\nthey will be in the range you suggested.\nL: Tell Ron to keep if as a tribute to Wheeler. He didn't use our memo to\nhim.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nLaird/Kissinger\n9:52 ram\n4/14/70\n-3-\nK: I will talk to him.\nL: Make it a pleasant thing. I have met with him every Monday and the\nPresident came yesterday because his retirement is to be announced today.\nThat wasn't a fight.\nK: The President wanted it as a tribute to Wheeler and you. He wasn't\nrefereeing any fight.\nL: There is no fight.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nRon Ziegler\nApril 14, 1970; 10:20 a. m.\nK: I talked to your friend at Defense. He is not making any more\ncharges like he did. The only thing if if you get asked at your press\nbriefing, say the meeting with the Chiefs yesterday was not in order\nto arbitrate a dispute on force withdrawal numbers. Just a general\nreview which the President has periodically. Say it was a general\nreview which the President has periodically.\nZ: I can say it was to provide the President an opportunity to pay\ntribute to Wheeler and have a general review.\nK; OK, Ron.\nms\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelcon\nSecy Laird\nApr 14, 1970; 10:15 a. m.\nL: I checked on that story. It was by Ted Sell in the Los Angeles\nTimes and carried by CBS. Ted Sell wrote the story 30 days ago and\njust resurrected it. He was trying to justify his figure. We don't\nhave a figure like that.\nK: That is what the President is worried about - maybe somebody\nmultiplied two times the figure we are thinking about.\nL: CBS used his story as the basis for their report.\nK: I have talked to Ziegler. He is going to discourage any speculation\non our side. We are making it clear that wasnot the purpose.\nL: Yes, and that is what we are doing here too.\nms\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSANITIZED COPY\nTELCON\nHelms/Kissinger\n11:00 am 4/14/70\nH: I now find that as a result of my csll to A1 Hiag last night --\nK: I find that too.\nH: I'm sorry I misled you.\nhe\nK: No, Wxjust worked while there was still time. What's the answer?\nH:\nAbout that secretary, you will want to read\nof 4/13.\nSANITIZED Per See. 3.3(b)(1)\nDECLASSIFIED\nE.O. 12958, as amended, Sect 3.5\nNLN 07-31/15:Persec 33(b)(1) PerLts. March 11, 2009\nBy PGH\nNARA, Date 4-3-09\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nSANITIZED COPY\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nProfessor Stephen Graubard\nMr. Kissinger\n11:00 a. m., April 14, 1970\nK:\nI'm sorry I couldn't come yesterday.\nG:\nCan you today?\nK:\nMy understanding is it doesn't make any sense.\nG:\nEveryone would be delighted to have you for dinner and any talk\nyou might want to give. It would be wonderful. Cyrus Vance\nand Chip Bohlen have left.\nK:\nI am not eager to give a talk.\nG:\nI think it would be amusing for you anyway, to have drinks and\ndinner -- stay as long as you want and go when you want to. There won't\nbe any after-dinner meeting. It would mean a great deal to me if you\ncame.\nK:\nLet me see. We have this space problem.\nG:\nIt would relax you. There are several members of Parliament\nfrom France -- a nice group. You would give great pleasure.\nK:\nI will let you know by early afternoon. None of your plans depend\non it, do they?\nG:\nFred Wild said he went ahead and had dinner Sunday knowing you\nwouldn't show. I have a 25¢ bet with him you will show tonight. It would\nbe easy for you -- nothing except your pleasure and the pleasure you would\ngive.\nK:\nI will let you know by 2:30. I do want to come.\nG:\nYou will find the French delegation is interesting. The Americans\nare mostly people you know: Dick Wall, Stanley Hoffman, Martin Meyerson,\nDavid McKecklin(?), Frank Sutton, Francis Bator (thought he may not be\nable to make it because of some meeting), and Mariam Camps.\nK:\nI will do my best.\nG:\nThen, I will hear by 2:30. I would personally regard it as a great\nfavor. More than that, I believe you would enjoy it. That was as much the\nmotive as any other.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nProfessor Graubard\n- 2 -\n11:00 a. m., April 14, 1970\nK:\nLet me see what crises we are going to have surface during the\nnext few hours. Where is the dinner?\nG:\nBrandeis House (?) -- House of the Academy.\nK:\nI know vaguely where it is. I will have a driver from Bedford AFB.\nG:\nIt is right near Faulkner Hospital. We could put someone in touch\nwith your driver and give him directions.\nK:\nHow do you get there from Rout 128.\nG:\nGo down 128 to MXXXXXXXXXXXX the Newton turn-off, which is\nvery close. About 2-1/2 miles from Newton, you turn off to the House.\nlds\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nFrank Borman/Kissinger\n11:10 am\n4/14/70\nK: How are things?\nIn\nB: Stable. Axtx11 hours we will have a large burn. The problem is to keep the\nplatform up and get an accurate brun. That requires electricity supply which\nrequires water. So wehave to keep the water up.\nK: You don;t need ? ????\nB: Not in the Lem.\nK: Right. So water is your big problem. When will you know more? Tonight?\nB: Now it looks all right and if everything goes like this, it will go all right.\nK: Haldeman says if your attitude is moderate, it will be all right -- that you' re\na natural born k passimist.\nB: I say it just the xxxx way I see it.\nK: The burn tonight is the big problem.\nB: They are also looking into jettysing the service module but we have never\nburned the module without the Lem.\nK: We are thinking of you.\nB: I will keep you informed.\nYou\nK: We have other things to consider so I would appreciate that.\nB: This is an informal line of communication between you and me. I hope no\none's feelings are getting hurt.\nK: No, they are talking with Paine and getting the dope but\nB: it's importantt that you get the information. I will Hp keep you informed.\nK: Good. Call me when anything happens.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBob Haldeman\nDr. Kissinger\n2:19 p.m., 4-14-70\nH:\nThe President has talked to Rogers and told him that he was\ncancelling the Thursday nite statement and that they were to\nsay nothing - that there would be no speculation. The thought\nis that he definitely cannot do it Thursday night and that he\nwill say so tomorrow. In other words, Ron will say that\nthe Thursday announcement has been postponed and he will\nnot give a date. Then we get the question of SALT. We could\nmove that up to Thursday. We can't leave it until Friday\nafternoon but could do it Thursday morning.\nK:\nWe can do it Thursday morning. Let me ponder it a bit.\nWe don't want to give the whole position away before we\npresent it.\nH:\nWhen are you going to present it?\nK:\nNext week. The President was afraid of leaks. I think we\nmight do it on Thursday. Let me ponder it. I will let you\nknow.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecone\nMr. Kissinger\nU. Alexis Johnson\n4/14/70; 6:50 p.m.\nJ: I have this message to Phnom Penh we should get it to him before\n9:00 p.m. our time here. I would like to read it to you.\n(Mr. Johnson read the message quickly and I could not take it all down.)\nK: If you could look at the paragraph where you talk about navigation.\nI\nthough the last paragraph sort of shows more coolness tha n the President\nfeels. I have no objection\nit lists a whole lot of reasons why we really\nshould not be doing anything. Look, I am not going to fall on my sword on\nthis. He has been bugging me everyday about whether anything has been\nmoving. I have been urging him to go through regular procedures and do\nsomething that everyone can believe in. I am being very candid with you.\nJ; Letme look at it.\nK: Basically, it is fine.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nBob Haldeman\nMr. Kissinger\n7:10 p. m., 4-14-70\n(did not hear first few sentences - something about\nnotifying Rogers & Laird about announcement not being made)\nK:\nOn that SALT meeting, we can do it (on Thursday?)\nand I see nothing wrong with it as long as he does not\nsay too much. I think on the whole it is a good time\nto do it. What do you hear on the astronauts?\nH:\nI don't know. Somehow they have not called me.\nK:\nIt is going to be the first landing on Mars.\nH:\nHenry, that's terrible.\nK:\nReally, I think in this case no news is good news. How\nwas the Space Center?\nH:\nIt was OK. They gave him a little briefing.\nK:\nOK - are you going to be at the dinner?\nH:\nNo.\nK:\nLucky.\nmlh\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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