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Secy. Hickel/Kissinger
afternoon
4/15/70
H: I had a talk with the Charge' at the Soviet Embassy. I just got through
meeting with him re my trip to Russia through Alaska. I would like to talk
to you about this.
K: As the President told Volpe, our problem isn't the merit of the trip but
other things we are doing.
H: I understood we should get your advice.
K: You should get our go ahead before you do it. I have no objection to your
talking about it in principle but don't tell them the date you have agreed to.
H: I told them roughly the first of June.
K: You'll have to do something about that. That would be premature from our
point of view.
H: I would like to talk to you.
K: Our problem is that we have a complicated game to play and we want to
give them that as a reward and not as a down payment.
H: I know Volpe is talking about it.
K: You have priority over Volpe. If anyone goes, you can go.
H: The problem I have is different but I will do what you have me do. Our
political problem is to open up Siberia to Alaskan airlines. They will start
the 6th of June and after that wouldn't be important to me. After that it's
after the fact. They will have flights right off the Sea of Japan. Six of the
flights are full out. If they take in just anyone then all my work for years is
down the drain.
K: Our interest is not the merit.
H: If I wasn't a Cabinet officer then I could go?
K: Definitely. You cannot convince the Russians that W you would go just for
Alaska or reasons of Interior. They would see it as a try for detente.
H: I have an impossible thing.
K: They will take you anytime.
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