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Laird: If we are to keep maintaining the President's credibility, we
must insure withdrawal.
HAK: There is no thought of authorizing more troops.
Laird: These people have the idea the President will probably allow
that if we really need them.
HAK: Can you be specific; what do you want them not to do?
Laird: What I want to do is keep the pressure on to use South Vietnamese
forces and it is going in the other direction now and I am going to try to
turn it the other way.
HAK: I don't think we should stop or pull out what we already are doing.
Isn't 704 going to be all South Vietnamese?
Laird: No, some Americans are in there. I have got to have a talk with
Mayo too because Mayo is sure that we are going to make our withdrawal
schedule coincide with the budget. The budget is based on 10,000 a
month and by delaying as we will a few months, if you delay that 4th
increment two months, that is 300 million dollars and Mayo keeps
saying we are going to make that schedule. I am not sure we are going
to make it.
HAK: I know
Laird: We know but Mayo doesn't seem to know it. On the Hill, Mayo
was saying the rate would be maintained. We can make some troop
reductions but most of the troop reductions will come after the first
of the year. I think we can get to 60,000. I have a May 10 deadline
for the withdrawal plan. I would like to have until June 1.
HAK: OK, I think that is fair.
Laird: Good, now let me think, is there anything else. I hope you do
bring up with XXXX WSAG a plan to use those troops? ? ?
HAK: That is on the schedule today.
Laird: That is of utmost importance. We have got to have a plan for the
use of people before we take action with them. ??? I think that is all.
HAK: OK, goodbye.
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