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    "ocrText": "Stuart Loory/Mr. Kissinger\n9:45 p.m., May 6, 1970\n- 2 -\nL:\nI meant the boatride and the Camp David meeting that\nSaturday.\nK:\nIt was laid on at the last minute -- it wasn't scheduled. The\nPresident called and asked me to fly up and show him what the choices\nwere. He did not make the decision until Monday n ight.\nL:\nThe choices were the use of ARVN only\n?\nK:\nI don't want to into that. There has been enough in the papers\nabout the timing to show you this is simply not right.\nL:\nOn the basis of what is in the papers, on the Thursday before\n(the 23rd) cleaning out of the sanctuaries was not a live possibility\nas far as Rogers was concerned.\nK:\nI will not go into any other part ;of this because I can't do my\njob if people have to worry about what I reveal about decisions. I\nmerely want to keep you from going off the deep end. McCain never\ndiscussed the sanctuaries. He gave me a general briefing about the\nPacific and only because the President was impressed the day before\nand he was in San Diego, and I thought I had an afternoon free. But\nthe speech took more time than expected, so I had only 20 minutes\nfor him. No decision was made on that Saturday evening. There were\ntwo more meetings after that on Sunday and Monday morning.\nL:\nOf course, when it is told that the decision was made Saturday\nnight, it is not inconsistent with what you say -- the President by that\npoint had virtually made up his mind.\nK:\nIf he had, it was not obvious to me. As late as Tuesday morning,\nI was reviewing with some of my associations what I would say if he\nasked me for a firm recommendation. I tell you that only to indicate\nhow close the time period was.\nL:\nI am told also that Rogers and Laird were in opposition to use\nof American troops pretty much up to the end.\nK:\nI will not give a checklist of who recommended what. I really\ncan't do that.\nL:\nWas Mitchell at the final meetings?"
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