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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nThe President\n5/9/70 11:18 a. m.\nP: How did it go?\nK: Well, One's self is never the best one to ask.\nP:; Oh sure, you know how it went.\nK: I think it went well. Ziegler thought so and SO didd my people.\nP: You were able tokeep attention fixed on Cambodia and not in\nthe sutdents.\nK: Yes, I said it was a much deeped problem than Cambodia\nthat the country faces. The questioning got more and more friendly. I\nwent into figures. They said how do you assess the operation/ I said if we\nstopped tomorrow, it's already an overwhelming success. We've already cap-\nlast\ntured more ammunition than the Communists expended in the XXXXX\nfour\nmonths.\nWhen ask4d were the students considered, I said, I can give you a personal\nvignette, which I don't usually do: The president has spend more time talking to\nabout students than anything else. And I got in that point on intelligence.\nP: That idea that we jerked off and didn't know what we were doing\nwas ridiculous. That it was orderly.\nK: That we did have intelligent estimates and that's what happened.\nP: They asked me what the President meant about timing, what\nthe President meant that it's going faster.\nK: I said we originally thoight there would be a combat phase. But\nthere had been no need for that. We said originally it would be 6 to 8 weeks,\nbut that we were not speeding it up, for reasons of completing it, not for\nmilitary reasons. They tried to get me to say that it was for political reasons.\nP: Oh, hell.\nK: I said no.\nP: No, every statement I made I said that as each operation is\ncompleted we are going to get out.\nK: I found the mood of the press entirely different. They gave me\nmore of a chance to be positive. They were almost apologetic. They asked me\nto assess the chances of the negotiations; had they been hurt? I said no, I\nthink it helped, and I gave the reasons. It lasted nearly an hour."
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