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P: What is your estimate on the casulty thing? HAK: Seems to be running in the neighborhood at the present time About 65 of those are Cambodian casulties, we are down around 100 P: Quite a bit of activity HAK: Yes, this time last year P: That is comparative -- it is comparative If we had seen 165 last year, we would have thought it was low HAK: Probably a little less this week, I haven't put it all together this Hanoi pattern They don't have anyone in Paris now who can talk anyway P: The trooops will be hot in June we are already in the first week of June HAK: Walters doesn't really know P: I have a feeling -- beginning to feel a little like you -- they have got to be wondering this collection of stuff is a Helluva blow to them, a Helluva blow. They also ought to remember that if we did it to them once, we can do it to them again -- a Helluva blow be sure that the South Vietnamese don't come out July 1. HAK: P:

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