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Telecon Dave Packard 6/13/70 2:05 .m. P: I was just look9ng into the things the President is worrying about in a briefing with DIA. I'm trying to get what we might to to be more effective. It would be helpful to get to ghe & President to talk to him for about 20 minutes and let him see some of these things first-hand. He might get a much better idea of what we're doing and what needs to be done. We can give you memos but I think this would be better. K: The one thing that is maddening is to send over a Presidential order and have noghing happen. P: There's not much that can be done now in Cambodia. K: How can it be that they XXX can take a town and we can't hit one. P: We can't use tactical air for attacks on towns ujiless we have ground control with it. We can't run out there with tactical air and get the thing settled, It would be helpful if he understood the problem. K: I'll try to get it set up, but is there nothing that can be done? P: The situation is, the logistical movements coming into the Laos panhandle. There's not much coming into Cambodia yet. What is coming is coming in boats in the jungles. We've onlyka haxdax had one secondary explosion SO far. We haven't been able to do much yet. K: But when we can take a town they must be moving. P: But we can't tell much be reconnaissance. By the time the pictures are developed the people have moved, You can't fire from the air without someone to tell you who's the enemfyand whox who isn't. It's a little more complex than it appears. If we could get a presentation to the President of what the problem is it would be helpful. K: I'll see if I can arrange it. I get the same questions every day. I'll arrange an appointment if it can be done. P: He's in Kay Biscayne tomorrow? K: Yes, but he won't want to see anyone. He never wants to be distnrbed down there, And he's probably going to Walker's Key. P: I think we xankox should allocate half an hour. We could go through it in 10 minutes, but he usually lokes to discuss these things. I understand his concerns, but it would be helpful if he understood what can and can't be done.

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