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V:
It would be a nice gesture, Henry.
K:
But then it's no longer a honeymoon trip.
V:
Well, it would be nice for Rogers to go to Lima. He doesn't
have to stay there. He can go on. For the meeting with Diaz Ordaz,
Rogers doesn't necessarily have to be there or he could join the
President for just that as an alternative. The President ought to have
Meyer there and one of the Latin American officials.
K:
But then it becomes very official.
V:
Well, you can't avoid it, Henry.
K:
Well, what if he just went down for his honeymoon anniversary
and then had Diaz Ordaz have a social dinner for him?
V:
Well, the point there is it won't obviate the pressure. Once
the Mexicans know he's there, they're going to want to talk a little bit
of business or else assume that he will come back again in September.
K:
That's right. That's the choice.
V:
And if he does that, he will almost have to come back again
in September.
K:
But I think if he really wants to get a rest down there
I just think to set up a big apparatus with Assistant Secretaries,
Secretaries, agendas, etc., , looks like an insane rush.
V:
I agree with that. But you say that if he does this, he will
not want to go back in September.
K:
Probably not.
V:
My point is that from the Mexican point of view
K:
The thing I have to get in his head is that if he wants to use
this as a substitute for September, he's got to have the State Department
and the whole apparatus present. On the other hand, if he does not have
them present, then he's got to go back in September.
V:
Right. Or, alternatively, ask Diaz Ordaz to come up to San
Clemente.
K:
Right.
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