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Frankel/Kissinger 11:37 a. m. 7/7/70 -3- K: (cont) have thought it through, Once you go down this route the logic of military situation dictates it's own requirements. F: The Israeli attitude might have reflected their ? ? ? ? ? K: They may have treated it as a major country and this is their miscalculation, if it is a miscalaulation. F: If they went for a settlement they could claim the credit. So it isn't impossible. K: If it's not escalated. We have accepted advisors, We have to look at the whole. The line is hard to draw. F: If this kind of permanent beefing up is part of a settlement we cannot buy that, K: If they do, how can a settlement work? If the Israeli's have to withdraw from ????? ? and we face the situation of a permanent Soviet presence there, F: Is the Suez important to them? If they got the Suez out of it? K: We don't despair of a - - what we are doing is geared toward diplomacy, It is not . I am not speaking with confidence but its in the ball park. F: And the psychology of Israel, will they let us go on this type of thing? K: That's what we are trying to gain time for, I think SO if they feel their existence isn't threatened, F: Have there been Russian casualties? K: Probably. They aren't saying. F: They are not making an issue of it? K: No. to F: his has been most useful.

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