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Joe Sisco
8/5/70 3:40 p.m.
S: I am trying to get the cease-fire proposal into effect, but it's very
complicated Henry.
K: I can imagine.
S: I jsist did a cable which I am going to take to the Secretary. It is
a definitive proposal for a cease-fire standstill. We want to put it to the
Israelis first. But I am recommending to the Secretary that it be cleared
with you. I would be much more comfortable if it goes through you first.
K: Isn't it a policy matter? So it has to be cleared with me?
S: Well I think it is. Secondly, I wanted to report to you where we
stand on the question of military assistance which Israel has requested.
They want as a matter of priority four things: 1) Helicopter standoff
equipment to help jamb SAM electrical equipment, 2) Shrikes, 3)
CBUs (to attack SAM sites), 4) Pods--electrical equipment. I have
had two good talked with Packard. He will, by tomorrow morning,
see what is possible to present to the Israelis. But there needs to be
a discussion with our Secretary of State and I think this is a matter of
interest to the White House as well. The Secretary believes that the
over-riding objective should be to get the cease-fire working immediately.
If there is any further delay there may be incidents and also a loss of
momentum. When the package is gotten together the Secretary wants to
know whether and how eve should tell the Israelis. Let me give you the
Secretary's thinking on this: If the Israelis are the cause of any delay
in the establishment of a cease-fire, we shouldn't provide the equipment.
If, however, the Egyptians cause a delay and in a manner which would
improve their situation, then we should study the whole thing further. In
other words, the Seceetary wants to look at the existing situation before
we go ahead. Rabin has informed the Pentagon (either on a tactical basis
or under instructions, I don't know) that unless they get the four items and
get the opportunity to hit the SAM sites, there may be a delay on the
cease-fire. This is a form of pressure that didn't go well with the
Secretary. We took the view that the compelling need is to get on klx with
the
cease-fire and that it is just as much in the interest of the
Israelis to do SO as the others involved, if not more SO. But the problem
is that if you have a cease-fire and then the Israelis make a dramatic
attack, the other side will feel the need to restore the balance and then
you might as well not have a cease-fire.
K: If there is a cease-fire will they get the equipment?
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