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TELCON Shultz/Kissinger 12:20 pm 8/19/70 K: . (Lairdyelling and screaming that he has to take another defense cut. S: What does that mean? K: A balloon (?)( in '71. S: I will find out about it. K: He says he doenn't want a piece of paper from you. Hewill get the House to get it. S: I will check on that. K: On that he basis an accelerated troop withdrawal from VN. S: If it's going to be cut it seems to me we should do it. K: It's bad policy for the Secy. of Defense to tell his staff he is for a higher budget and then ask Congress to cut it. S: That was a weird meeting. K: We were reversing courses SO fast my head was spinning. appalling(? S: David got that message. XUXIX It's an appealing statement to have to make. With lack of appreciation of volunteer armed forces. K: The thing that me at these meetings is that no one has to think they are making history. S: How is your schedule this afternoon? K: It's almost impossible. Do you want to talk? S: I had a discussion with Rogers about an hour. K: You will find him a vicious fighter. S: I said we would talk in S. C. K: Maybe we can talkafter dinner tonight or in Calif. S: But what will he do inbetween?

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