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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nJoe Sisco\n10/16/70 8:45 a. m.\nS. I wanted to give you a fill-in on\nK: Our minds, as usual, are working on similar lines. I had just\nasked my secretary to call you.\nS: First, the atmospherics. The atmosphere was very good.\nCordial tone, good personal rapport between the Secretary and Riad.\nSubstantively, we made up our minds ahead of time that no proposals\nwould be put forward. All we would do would be to feel out the situa-\ntion. He let the fellow say everything he wanted. In essence, they\ndeny the violations. The secretary said we've got xx it so cols that\nany time you want to look at it we'll be glad to show you. Riad gave\na general indication of willingness to extend the cease-fire, but\nthere's got to be progress in getting on with the talks. We we came\nto an extended cease-fire we are more likely to get more of a de facto\nextension than any other.\nK: That might be better.\nS:\nI\nthink SO too. XXX The Eggptians indicate they don's want to\nbe held in any formal way. So we're only going to accomplish a\nde facto extension of the cease-fire. We are not going to get the talks\nresumed.\nK: Why? Because they can't affort to talk now?\nS: One, it's a weak crowd, they have no process by which to con-\nsolidate their position. Unless it were the most minimal kinc of face\nsaver they can't admit that Nasser committed a violation. Even a\ntoken rectification would involve an admission. He gave me a very\nconfoluted argument. He said he was out of the country. But then when\nhe got back and found that Nasser had agreed, he argued that it was an\nunfair proposal, and then he proceeded to argu that they didn't violate it.\nK: That's like when I was talking with Vorontsoz and he said they\ndidn't go in. I said what about the advisors and he said \"All the advisors\ndropped off at the border. 11\nS: Yes. Thank you for the decisions both on arms and credit. The\narms decision took care of our problem on the other side.\nK: You won your argument about the Assistant Secretaries\n[had to go off the line to answer a call]\nS: I'11 call you back tonight."
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