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Mr. Kissinger/The President October 16, 1970 1:15 p.m. [paraphrased] jlj [entered the conversation late] P: He is a fair fellow and I just wanted to accomplish K: Accomplished everything you set out to do. That Soviet submarine tender went on a little maneuver and then stopped at a port on the northern shore of Cuba - the normal port of entry and return. We have no reason to suppose that they will not return. Despite instructions not to say anything the Defense Department put it out that it has returned to a Cuban port. P: Who the hell over there is doing it? We ordered them not to say a damn thing. K: Not a damn thing. They released it 1/2 hour after the incoming message had been received. P: How did they put it out? Did it come from the Secretary's office, or Navy's? K: Statement. The regular Defense Department briefing. P: Well be sure that Bill knows this before his briefing tonight. Call him and tell him we want him to know that we did not know anything about it. I am raising [holy] hell about it. K: They released it after I had put out another directive reminding them not to say a word about it. P: We must be sure that Bill just knows. I talked to him about announcing the meeting between Gromyko and myself. Told him that any mention of the Summit would be later. That we did not want anything to crack on it. K: I think he is relaxed mood about this. P: On this Summit thing. I would have no objection if Gromyko came at him about it but there would be a lot of people in the room, wouldn't there? [Would be better not to have anything said about it. ] K: As long as Bill knows what we know about it then there shouldn't be any problem. P: This question of who goes first. They would go I would go. I don't know. If it could come up in a way K: I am seeing Dobrynin tomorrow and I will get it straightened out.

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