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    "ocrText": "DOCUMENT WITHDRAWAL RECORD [NIXON PROJECT]\nDOCUMENT\nDOCUMENT\nNUMBER\nTYPE\nSUBJECT/TITLE OR CORRESPONDENTS\nDATE\nRESTRICTION\n1\nTelcon\nHAK and John Fremen (1p.)\n11/3/70\nB\nSANITIZED per RAC review 6/2/10 6\n2\nTelcan\nHAK and Haiky Rodwell (11)\n11/6/70\nD\nSANITIZED\nW\nTcican\nHAK and Peter Flarigan (2pp.)\n11/9/70\na\nSANITIZED\nFILE GROUP TITLE\nBOX NUMBER\nKissinger Transcripts - Telephone Conversations\n7\nFOLDER TITLE\n1970 2-9 Nov. 5\nRESTRICTION CODES\nA. Release would violate a Federal statute or Agency Policy.\nE. Release would disclose trade secrets or confidential commercial or\nB. National security classified information.\nfinancial information.\nC. Pending or approved claim that release would violate an individual's\nF. Release would disclose investigatory information compiled for law\nrights.\nenforcement purposes.\nD. Release would constitute a clearly unwarranted invasion of privacy\nG. Withdrawn and return private and personal material.\nor a libel of a living person.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon and returned non-historical material.\nDECLASSIFIED\nNATIONAL ARCHIVES pursuant to Executive Orders and determined to be declassified. NA\n(4.85)\nTelecon\nRon Ziegler\n10/2/70 a. m.\nC11.2.701\nK: I appreciate the way you got myp personal affairs all over the\nWhite House.\nZ: What do you mean?\nK: Telling Haldeman and Ehrlichman about me at Scandia last night.\nZ: I didn't mention it to a soul. And you may be leaking it yourself\nor someone else. In this case the culprit lies in a different place.\nK: It was either Haig or you because you're the only ones who knew.\nZ: You draw your own conclusions. The press was trying to track\nyou down all over town. They wanted your predictions of the outcome of\nthe elections. The President wants you to make some statements on how\nyou think the elections will come out? Will you do that?\nK: Certainly. Just tell them I hope all the traitors will be defeated.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHelms/Kissinger\n11:35 am\nx10xx 11/2/70\nK: I just read that agreed statement on what happened on the standstill zone.\nOne sentence I won't accept but which you can appeal to the President.\nHave no evidence that refute conditions that ? ? ? ? was concerned prior\nto Aug. 7. Since they didn't know it wasnixgoing to be a standstill zone,\nwhere would they hide it -- 300 missiles. Why would they hide it before\nAug. 7 and show it after. How can you rationalize that?\nH: It was Laird X who said that. That sentence was included because of him.\nwould\nK: Letx him explain to me why they XXXXX hide them when they didn't know\nthere was going to be a ceasefire or where the zone would be. You are the\nDirector of Intelligence. ? ? ? ? Loose correlation bwtween installments\nand\n.\nWhy would they put in caches before the ceasefire, in a zone\nthey didn't know existed. They couldn't build them overnight. Over a period\nof months. You can't hide 300 missiles overnight.\nH: We have no agx arguement. It leans (?) on sound evidence.\nK: The President isn't a trained Jesuit.\nH: If you would like me to telegraph out to you another sentence plus a\nan explanation of what has been said --\nK: Would you and in the meantime I am sending it back to the group to work on.\nIt's on page 2 of my draft. kx If they had it underground they must have\nscooped up sand - - I am having that tonnage analyzed. I can discover no\nincentive -- why would they hide it before a ceasefire and bring it out after.\nH: My language in the briefing was better. We will use that.\nK: Would you re-do it as an agreed statement?\nH: Fine. We will have it by the time you get back.\nK: How about opening of business on Wed. -- or the end of the day. That's\nall right.\nH: We will have it by Wed. evening.\nK: State the evidence. If they think it can be hidden there then some one should\nsay we never saw caches and never saw excavation and don't understand the\nincentive.\nH; Got youl\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSisco/Kissinger\n9:28 am 11/3/70\nK: I saw your cable to the Secy. about the UN debate and I am worried again\nthat tactics will X consume us and we have not had a serious discussion on\nthis. How can we say we are not happy with paragraph 3. There are only\n3 paragraphs.\nS: Latin American resolution?\nK: Yes.\nS: I am talking about Israel. We didn't get the changes we wanted.\nK: The Russians stood alone for 15 years.\nS: We are persuing the tactic the Israelis want us to persue.\nK: I gather there was a question whether we would on an unacceptable\nresolution.\nS: I am not following you.\nK: We will face an agonizing decision -- if a resolution of this kind comes\nto vote it will be unfavorable. So what?\nS: The other point is made earlier in the cable. The whole approach in the\nsecond paragraph we have persued the tactic of the Israelis.\nK: No problem with second paragraph. I want to know what you wix are\nplanning to do. One out of 10 you have to tell me before you do it.\nS: Yost is busy this morning after talking with Eban to get further changes.\nThe Israelis asked us an hour ago to\nvote against the modified\nAfrican-UAR draft. We will do that. We want an effort to block on that\nresolution. This is what Israel wants and we will do it. What we will have\ncoming up and the reason we did that piece of paper yesterday\nwas that we wanted to outline considerations. It's fast moving and we could\nbe confronted with a quick decision. I have put in a call to Yost to see when\nhe thinks the vote will come up. If he thinks the vote will come axxxxx in\ntomorrow, we will come up with telegram to you and Secy. SO that the 3 of you C\ntalk about this KLX tomorrow morning. My recommendation is no vote on\nthe African draft by U.S. and for the Latin American draft is concerned I\nwill have Yost talk to the Israelis. The Latin American draft could be used ask\nif they want to use it becauese there are refeences that could be interpreted\nand some of the violations. I will read some to you. X The Isralis like th\nfollowing two paragraphs. \"Taking note of the ceasefire agreed upon on\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nSisco/Kissinger\n9:28 am\n11/3/70\n-2-\nAxigxx\nS: (cont) Aug. 7 ? ? ? ? communication of that date. \" Transmitted\nour proposal in totality. \"? ? ? ? ? ?\" There's a Kexkxin\nwaiting\n(or sitting) on both sides but it's acknowledgement of violations. Next paragraph\n11\ncontinuation of ceasefire scrupulously observed ? ? ? leading toward\nachievement of peace ? ? ? ? ?\" All the Israelis have asked us to do is to\nsee if we can get a couple of words to refer to the agreement. I don't think\nwe can but you will findIsraelis are reacting to Latin American draft\nin a positive way. Eban said \"stay with your resolution but be\nfavorable to the Latin American one because it's better than the\nAfrican.\nK: I wanted the state of play from you.\nS: You will get a recommendation here bax between abstention and\naffirmative vote and depending on Israel. Yost has made no move\nwithough checking with Eban.\nK: We don't want to spend goodwill with Israel in the UN.\nS: That's our feeling. We have put a lot of money in the bank.\nThe remaining thing is voting on the Latin American resolution.\nThe overriding consideration is that we have to be able to ? ? ?\n? The Egyptians don't want an affirmative vote from the US on\nthese things. They want their victory.\nK: How have the Soviets behaved?\nS: All out support of the Arabs. But France is worse.\nK: The Soviets have not softened since the Gromyko talk?\nS: No. I will be back to you today depending on what happens.\nI read an X interesting article on Jill St. John today in the\nPost. Talks about her new business. (something about selling\na line of dresses.)\nK: Does it mention me?\nS: Only that here only claim to fame is you.\nK: You won't be happy until you come out and I introduce you to\nsome starlet.\nS: I may be back to you today.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nPeter Flanigan\n11/3/70 9:45 a. m.\nF: Did you call your friend?\nK: No, I thought things were going pretty well.\nF: It looked that way from the press reports, but we still haven't\nheard. Sato met with the industry leaders on October 30 and urged co-\noperation and hoped the textile issue would be solved by mid-November.\nK. That's about right.\nF: I just think sitting here and doing nothing is kind of silly. I\nam ready to call Yoshida and give him that message as suggested by you.\nK: Here we go. You have gone through this for six weeks and you\nare losing your cool. I have conducted this with masterful tact all this\ntime and great ability, to a stalemate.\nF: To a stalemate? To a non-starter you mean.\nK: Don't hurt my feelings like that.\nF: That thing of the President last night was a disaster.\nK: You've got all these hotshots here\nF: How is it possible that a screening wouldn't show that?\nK: Well, I didn't see it. I objected to the theory of the thing. The\nPresident of the United States shouldn't respond to people who throw rocks\nat him. You thought it was technically bad too?\nF: Technically it was ghastly. He sounded awful and you could\nhardly hear him. The proplex proper use of television is a very personal\nthing. This was made very clear by the comparison between the President\nat a rally with children on fathers' shoulders and children yawning and\nMuskie sitting in his living room in Maine. I think the only thing that saved\nus was that people are SO sick of the whole thing at this point that it didn't\nchange one vote.\nK: It didn't do any good. If anything we should have gone the other\nway. People don't want their President to start attacking their children.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nPeter Flanigan\n11/3/70 9:45 a.m. page 2\nF: Well, on this other thing. As you know, we've heard nothing.\nIt's been a week and a half. We have a choice: do nothing, you call\nyour guy, or me call the Ambassador.\nK: And you would tell the Ambassador that it's hard to overestimate\nthe restiveness\nF: I'd say 10 days ago you said we would have a response shortly.\nWe've heard nothing.\nK: Say your Prime Minister said he'd make himself responsible.\nLet me call my guy now and on Thursday let's you and me get the\nAmbassador in. Because he made the commitment in my presence, it\nmight help.\nF: I think we should beat at them over there. Say it's not a\ngoæernmental thing; it's a personal thing of the Prime Minister.\nK: I am invited to your house to dinner tomorrow?\nF: You are. It is tomorrow night and we do hope you will be there.\nK: I will come as soon as the plane lands. Did you say that Kay\nGraham would be there?\nF: Yes.\nK: I like her.\nF: I like her too, but I don't think she runs her paper.\nK: I think she does and pretends not to. Let me call my guy and if\nhe says anything I'll call you back.\nF: Okay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nRon Ziegler\n11/3/70 10:05 a. m.\nK: It takes me 24 hours to get to you so I can apologize. You\ndidn't leak.\nZ: I told you that. When I speak to you, it's always in honesty.\nK: Did you know that no one can take advantage of another\nunless he first wins his confidence. You are the original confidence man.\nZ: I'm glad you dropped by that party. You wre a big hit. The\nguys said you were very funny.\nK: I must have been drunk.\nZ: But don't tell the President you went. He's not happy with the\nLos Angeles Times.\nK: There's only problem there -- Loøry.\nZ: We are trying to keep you around for another 7 years. Some\nof use every two years have to go to the battlefield. Occasionally some\nof us have to pick up the M-16 and go to the front lines.\nK: Don't know what made you think you could top the rock-throwers\nlast night.\nZ: Say hello to Jill. Tell her I am sorry I couldn't see her last\nnight.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nJoe Sisco\n11/3/70 11:50 a.m.\nS: I am sorry to bother you, but I want a personal word with\nyou. About picking a change of date for the Prime Minister of Tur-\nkey. I wonder if you saw the telegram from Handley about that.\nK: No. The problem is the President is committed to Heath\nand he cannot do it any other day.\nS: I know that. We have put it to the Turks. I talked with the\nAmbassador. We suggested the 15th or the 16th as an alternate.\nHe can't do it then. He said if this can't be worked out, they are\ntalking terms of June.\nK: That's too late.\nS: My estimate is that this is going to become difficult and an\nissue between Turkey and the U.S. I know how important the President\nconsiders the Turks in terms of overall Mediterranean strategy.\nAmbassador said to me last night, this makes it look as though you\nfeel the British are more important than the Turks.\nK: That's exactly right. You should have said you are pracep-\ntive as always Mr. Ambassador. Let me call the British Ambassador\nand see whether they can do it on the 15th or the 16th.\nX:\nThat would be striking a blow for freedom.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nAmbassador Freeman\n11/3/70 11:55 a.m.\nK: I'm glad my pills worked so well.\nF: I am better. I have been taking them faithfully.\nK: They certainly speed things up. I have a problem about the\nvisit. The Turks are running amok of that issue. I was wondering\nwhether any chance of the 15th or the 16th for your people, which we\nhad offered to the Turks.\nF: All I can do is to inquire. They are not dates that have come\nup. I was told that the second week would be convenient from 10 Downing\nStreet.\nK: This is a personal thing. The President hasn't asked that\nbut the Ambassador from Turkey is beside himself with frustration.\nIf it comes down to the 8th or the 9th in March, we will see the Prime\nMinister and risk Turkish\n.\nF: I will get on this right away. I will have something to tell\nyou by Thursday morning.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident/Kissinger\n12:50 pm XQx 11/3/70\nP: Any wars declared?\nK: Very quiet. They are waiting for our election.\nP: Just keep your fingers crossed.\nK: Casualty figures are only 24 -- 3 1x3x less then we thought\nP: They will bomb someone after the election.\nK: We will all be pulling.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nNo Objection to Declassification in Part 2010/06/02 : NLN-TELCONS-7-5-120-7\nTelecon\nAmbassador Freeman\n11/3/70 2:05 p.m.\n25X1\nF: Alex Johnson talked with Millard (?) on this.\nK: I know, but he thought I would be more persuasive with you.\nF: We've talked to London. I think this is going to be a bit\ndifficult. I don't think I can say more at the moment.\nK: No, I just wanted you to know the President is interested.\nF: I think I would be fooling you if I didn't warn you that we\nforesee some difficulty. Therex This might be something on which\nthe President might write a note to the Prime Minister.\nK: I don't think I could get him to do that today short of a\nnuclear attack on London.\nState Dept. review completed\nON-FILE NSC RELEASE INSTRUCTIONS APPLY\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nHas been and\nTELCON\nM. Berger/Kissinger\n5:20 pm\n11/3/70\nK: What are you taking me away from a Republican landslike for?\nB: Is it?\nK: I can't see it.\nB: Because of what you said on Chile no one wants to talk.\nK: You are nice and neither do I.\nB: Are we re-evaluating differently? What do we mean by Marxist? Will\nwe take steps or leave it up to them?\nK: Essentially yes but I don't want to talk about it.\nB: Do you have any idea what\nthis guy is?\nK: Yes.\nB: Why don't we send him a note?\nK: We sent an oral congratulatory note. Talk to State.\nB: As soon as you say something they are afraid to.\nK: They are? I have terrified them.\nB: I have an article in front of me on the Passions of Henry Kissinger.\nK: It's a real assasination job.\nB: I thought there was no room for knives.\nK: It's the worst. So violent it's amusing.\nB: Back to Chile.\nK: I will answer and I shouldn't SO I think I'd bettrer go.\nB: Chile is one of my things on a new job.\nK: You will do a distinguished job.\nB: When did we decide to phase out these 3 meterological bases?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nBerger/Kissinger\n5:20 pm\n11/3/70\n-2-\nK: 2-3 weeks ago.\nB: Connected with the Allende election?\nK: That was marginal. We are continuing military shipments.\nB: Isn't our freedom of movement harmed by fact that if we don't the Russians\nwill move in?\nK: That's why we are watching.\nB: Did they want to cut off for that reason?\nK: We will let it take it's course.\nB: Vaky has the report but I can't talk with your staff.\nK: Nachmanoff is taking over there.\nB: He'll be just as bad.\nK: You are in trouble but I can't help you.\nB: Any news on the M.E. ceasefire? Israel said they will abide by standstill\nbecause the U.S. proposal was for 90 days.\nK: I hadn't heard that. I hope to see you fairly soon.\nB: Am I more acceptable now that I am on a newspaper?\nK: You are too good.\nB: It's impossible to get a handle on Chile.\nK: Because it's a real problem.\nB: First Marxist government.\nK: German Social Democrats are Marxist.\nB: So why the problem?\nK: He is a revolutionary. I will see you soon.\nB: How about Czechoslovakia? Was that a free electing\n?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nBerger/Kissinger\n5:20 pm\n11/3/70\n- -3-\nK: That was overdone. He only had 36% of the vote. I am going to stop\nnow. See you soon.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Hugh Scott\n11/3/70 6:10 p.m.\nK: The television people just declared you a winner here and I\nwanted you to know that all your admirers here are delighted.\nS: 158,000 -- 139,000 with\npercent in. It must be\nPhiladelphia. We've gotten the bad news over with. They've just\nconceeded on television. NBC and ABC just gave it to me.\nK: We are delighted and I look forward to working with you, and\nit's been a pleasure.\nS: Thank you and give my best wishes to the President.\nK: Right, see you soon.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nNRockefeller/Kissinger\n6:30 pm\n11/3/70\nR: I am really happy.\nK: Warmest congratulations.\nR: This is really something.\nK: You are doing better everytime you run. It's a tremendous xx victory.\nR: XXXXX What's happening in Arkansas? That's too bad. We will have to\ncall him.\nK: Shows integrity counts for something in politics. Your running a\npositive campaign and focused on what had been done.\nR: You are my friend. You and I will continue to do something useful.\nK: The country needs you.\nR: You are great to call.\nK: I am sorry I am not there.\nR: I really appreciate it.\nK: Give my love to Happy.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Henry Jackson\n11/4/70 a. m.\nK: I don't know how appropriate it is for a member of this Admin-\nistration to congratulate a Democrat but I wanted to tell you that we are\nlooking forward to working with you. It is personally reassuring to know\nwhere you are.\nJ: I told the President I would help him all I can.\nK: I read your SALT paper. It was very thoughtful. I have had\nsome of these concerns and, for your information, we are starting a\nmajor study on these problems.\nJ: This should be done. I raised a lot of questions in the hearings.\nI am not tryint to throw a monkey wrench, but tio face up to this problem.\nK: It was really interesting that people who stood for a strong\nforeign policy have come out well.\nJ: I had thebaxxkeanges largest\n84 percent and that was on\nforeign policy. My oponent said I was partak of the military-industrial\ncomplex. He was against ABM and took the line about shifting par\npriorities and we should cut back. He went counter. Of course that\nwas the issue in the primary as wis. well. He's bright, sharp, but he\ntook that line.\nK: Without your hearingsand intelligent leadership in the Senate\nwe'd have had major problems.\nJ: I am going to the NATO parliamentarians and then Israel\nK: You will find the NATO parliamentarians are all scared out of\ntheir wits about the American withdrawals. We are going to make some\nproposals about restructuring NATO which will involve streamlining it.\nWe came to the conclusion a local defense of Europe isn't out of reach\nbut we cannot keep troops there to act as hostages.\nJ: This has been my line. I will see Helmut Schmidt.\nK: He's a good man. Will the defense guy be there?\nJ: Yes.\nK: You have been in Israel before?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Henry Jackson\n11/4/70 a.m. page 2\nJ: Yes, in 1956, two months before Suez.\nK: Do you need any help?\nJ: No, our own people and Rabin have organized it. My wife and I\nand a friend from Seattle and his wife and Richard Peart are going.\nK: I am going to steal him from you one of these days.\nJ: He's one of E\n's fellows. No, there's nothing particular\nI need to know in Israel. I assume Barbour will make all that we need\nto know available.\nK: I will make sure that he does. I will backchannel him and\nsee to it you get the information. And when you come back, call me to\nget together.\nJ: I'll be back on the 15th or 16th.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSen. Stennis/Kissinger\nmorning 11/4/70\nK: ? ? ? ? problem is a Republican Administration member to say\nhow delighted we are to have you back.\nS: The President came out all right.\nK: We have much balanced field. The Democrats will vote more like you.\nBuckley over Goodell.\nS: It's firmed up considerably.\nK: ABM and the like will be easier now. Want you to know how much we\nappreciate your efforts.\nS: It's been as I S aw it. It's been a pleasure to work with you and the'\nPresident. I appreciate you and the efforts you make and the President.\nI know where your hearts and minds are.\nK: Just don't say that around Harvard.\nS: You have the mettle.\nK: I appreciate it and I know the President does.\nS: Those last meetings with you at the WH impressed me.\nK:\nThat\nlast\n3\nships\nthat\nwent from a North port to a South port have\nleft and going back to home country. That's over.\nS: Completes the cycle. Give the President my regards.\nK: We look forward to working with you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nGov. Reagan/Kissinger\n10:00 a. m.\n11/4/70\nK: I just wanted to call and tell you how delighted I am. The country is\nbetter off.\nR: There are a few disappointments and some happy surprises.\nK: In the foreign policy field the tilt is to the right now. In addition to 3\nseats we have picked up the Buckley ? ? ?\nR: In Texas the same thing.\nK: Exactly. Taft will be ma e reliable then Yougn. On our side. I think\nit turned out fine.\nR: The governors were dispppointed in losses but it was local problems.\nK: The big states can be won as seen in NY and here. I am delighted you\nwill be there for a x few more years.\nR: I look forward to it and W seeing you.\nK: You are always understanding in presenting your problems. My best to\nyou and Mrs. Reagan. Congratulations again.\nR: Thank you.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nJoe Sisco\n11/4/70 10:10 a. m.\nS: Did you stay up all night?\nK: We are three hours behind the East. It gives us a little advantage.\nS: The situation in New York moved more rapidly than we expected.\nThe African draft was adopted by 2/3. There were 57 in favor; 53 against;\n39 abstentions. On the Latin America resolution, 45 in favor, 49 against\nand 29 abstentions. We and the Israelis voted affirmatively. It came out\njust as we thought it would in terms of the resolutions. Every step of the\nway, everything we did we did in concert with the Israelis.\nK: That's the best we could get out of it.\nS: 45 countries have\nthe violation.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nArlene Dahl\n11/4/70 10:18 a. m.\nK: I didn't want to leave without talking to you. How are you?\nD: Fine, a little disappointed more Republicans didn't get into\nthe Senate and House of Representatives.\nK: In the Senate we gained three seats and got rid of Goodell.\nAnd in Texas, while a Democrat,\nis conservative. But\nit's a pity George Bush didn't make it.\nWhen is the baby due?\nD: In about three and a half weeks.\nK: Any preferences?\nD: Not really, but I think it's going to be a boy.\nK: It wouldn't dare to be anything else.\nD: When will you be in California again?\nK: I think it will be right after Christmas, until the fourth or the\nfifth of January.\nD: Wonderful, maybe we could get together. We're going to have\na smorgasbord.\nK: I'm a pushover for smorgasbord.\nD: It will probably be the Saturday after Christmas.\nK: Wonderful.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSenator Taft\n11/4/70 10:55 a. m.\nK: I wanted to tell you that I am proud of my neighbor.\nT: It went very well.\nK: Well, I'm delighted and it's a great thing for the country.\nT: I look forward to working with you.\nK: So do 1. I hope you get some rest now.\nT: I'm doing that, going off to the Bahamas tomorrow.\nK: Please give my best to your wife.\nT: Will do that. See you in Washington.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nCannon/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n11/4/70\nK: I want to congratulate you. I know what you did. I want you to know\nI am impressed by your integrity. Noxsex Infrequent in this business.\nC: Increasingly infrequent in public life. I appreciate it. This has been a\nexperience for me. The Governor had a hell of a personal\nvictory.\nK: You are one of the few people who stands upto him.\nC: If you can't, there's no point in being here.\nK: 98% of my colleagues never learned that.\nC: If a larger percentage did, he would have been President sometime ago.\nIt's defficult to deal with a man who doesn't like to hear\nK: Them but he does afterwards. I hear from Nancy you paid for those\ntickets.\nC: I will let you know if it's any problem. I am putting it on 5600.\nK: But not paying for them personally?\nC: No. Was Also, Nancy is talking in the last few days that she wants to\nwork for Buckley if he wins.\nK: Let me talk with her first.\nC: I know Ted White --\nK: Make sure they don't commit themselves to someone else.\nC: I have contacts but I need to clear this with you. Personal interest and\nK: What do you think? What do you think the Governor will want?\nC: Governor in a state of re-examining what he is doing and what goals and\nobjectives will be. Hewould like to have her here to work on international\naffairs. It's always going to be important to the Governor. He needs\nS omeone he trusts and he does Nancy.\nK: That's my feeling. I am reluctant to see her come to Washington with\nthe Government but working for a Senator is something else. It isn't\nnepotism then.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nCannon/Kissinger\n1:15 pm\n11/4/70\n-2-\nC: Talk with here and decide.\nK: They will not make staffing decisions before Monday. Put a hold on it.\nC: I will talk with my guy there and XXX say I have a person and keep her in mind\nK: Let's get together for a drink next time I am in NY.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSisco/Kissinger\n1:23 pm\n11/4/70\nS: I am seeing the Turkish Ambassador at 5:00 tonight.\nK: No answer yet but I will have it tomorrow.\nS: That's fine.\nK: I am trying to get it changed.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nAlex Johnson\n11/4/70 1:30 p.m.\nK:\nWe said we would make it a personal request with the Prime\nMinister. I hope to have an answer tomorrow.\nJ: I talked to Dave Popper, the acting Prime Minister said they\nhave no problem with this. We can go along with it as long as it is useful.\nK: My impression in the Makarios conversation is that he was disposed\nto this.\nJ: I appreciate your doing this. I just wanted to touch every base.\nK: Okay, see you soon.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nAmbassador Sullivan\n11/4/70 1:37 p.m.\nK: I have some news which will delight you.\nS: Dinner or luncheon?\nK: No. I sent the President a note about the private meeting just\nto informk him and he has prohibited it. They kept us waiting two weeks\nand so he wants to delay one week.\nS: And they've agredd to an hour and a date.\nK: I told him that and he threw me out of his office. I sent him a\nwritten note saying this is taking place and things are moving and called\nhis attention to some of the traffic. He now wants it delayed on the same\ngrounds that they delayed us. Have Bruce come home or something.\nWhat time is it now in Washington? 4:45?\nS: Yes, and 10:45 in Paris.\nK: Because I will do it on my own responsibility. I twill talk to the\nSecretary on the plane. He feels very strongly. I am not optimistic\nabout getting him to change it. You better stand by; we get in about 10:00.\nYou better stand by to change it.\nS: We've got about three days to change it. No need to wake him\nup in Paris.\nK: I will raise it on the plane. I'm not sure this is the best time.\nS: I know what you mean. While I have you on the phone\nK: The Ky lunch?\nS: Yes.\nS M. They are making tentative arrangements, speaking engagements.\nKS: Now that elections are over, I can get it before the endak of the week.\nSK: Okay and on the other one.\nK: I will call you when I get in.\nS: Or we can get in touch first thing in the morning.\nK: Okay.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nProf. Yoshida\n11/5/70 8:40 a. m.\nY: I managed to have an hour's talk with my friend about seven\nhours ago, what you might call a heart to heart talk. It was not easy\nfor me to make such a physical arrangement on an absolutely quiet\nbasis. I cut into his schedule and am glad I did. I conveyed to him\nyour message and told him how you and your people are now feeling.\nMy friend expressed full appreciation and the result of the conversa-\ntion is as follows. First and foremost, my friend will honor his\npersonal commitment to your friend and you as expressed in the press\ncommunique by November 15 at the latest. He personally will take all\nresponsibility in this regard. He has already taken some behind-the\nscenes steps. He is fully aware of the deadline and its implications.\nI pressed to make it November 10 and he agreed the earlier the better.\nHe is mindful that you need time for your own strategy and time for a\nsimilar agreement with Korea and Hong Kong. There has been no\ncontact from our embassy there because my friend thought it would be\nbetter to keep it quiet before your election. This may be because he\ndoesn't understand fully.\nK: No, we paid a price in our election for the communique\nbecause our industry doesn't want it any more. I came under strong\nattack for having agreed by our political people.\nY: I understand that. Secondly, our industry leaders are going\nto call a crucial meeting tomorrow afternoon our time. My friend is\nextremely\nat the press\nthat have killed many\nopportunities in the past. On October 30 my friend called in top industry\nleaders concerned and talked to them forcefully. My friend believes it\nwas a successful meeting, SO the day after tomorrow he will take quick\naction toward a fruitful agreement. My friend and his associates would\nlike certain modifications of your last proposal, but that is in agree-\nment with the last exchange between Mr. Flanigan and his counterpart\nwhen my fri end was there.\nK: I can't judge that until I have seen it. I don't know about this.\nY: My friend perhaps does not either. But the framework is within\nthe exchange of views between the two experts. I will tell you frankly\nK: This sounds now as if\nas long as I can tell our people what\nis happening, we cannot insist whether it is one day or the other, and I\nunderstand your friend has his own management problems and as long\nas you understand that we are paying a price for this now.\nY: I fully understand the political implications of this.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nK: Many people here would be delighted now if you made an\nunacceptable offer. I think we understand this and it is a procedure that\nwill work. There will be no leakage here, and we will hear from you in\nthe next 48 hours.\nY: That's right. Please trust me.\nK: I have complete confidence in you.\nY: Thank you very much and this time I am confident that my friend\nis dead serious and determined to see to it by the deadline I described.\nK: I am delighted and let us stay in close touch with each other.\nY: Yes, and if there is anything you need to know, please contact\nme about it. This will be our hot line.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAdm. Moorer/Kissinger\n9:33 am\n11/5/70\nK: I was reviewing the scheduling for some of our meetings for next week,\nincluding the DPRC, and I am told we are not getting cooperation in the JCS.\nThis whole exercise was created to give you the appeak chance to appeal the\nparagraph you objected to. All we want are ways to implement the decision.\nI have had a long talk with the President and he didn't exclude that we can do\nbetter on the defense budget then in the past but until the decision is made --\nM: I will check.\nK: Would you please?\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nAmb. Bruce/Kissinger\n11:00 am\n11/5/70\nK: I sent you something from AF I yesterday.\nB: I sent something back this afternoon.\nK: I haven't got it yet. The President is concerned.\nB: You will have it within minutes. I waited until the session at the Majestic.\nThey attacked the President. I rejoined and they are sore.\nK: He feels very strongly but I wanted your view. He gave me no discretion\nbut kx I took it.\nB: You will read the arguements in my telegram. I am not for putting it\noff. I think they will attach the President regularly. I resented that. It's\na bad time at home not to get into conversations.\nK: Their theory is not to jomp after they have delayed. I will waif for\nyour cable.\nB:\nI waxixx sent it through that channel and you will get it within the hour.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nSen. Percy/Kissinger\n11:05 am\n11/5/70\nK: Sorry I couldn't get back to you earlier. I am just back and pretty\nharassed.\nP: I know. On the trip I leave on tonight to these various countries I\nam trakxi talking to Deagan who is the PR on the Vatican. He is setting up\na meeting in Rome. David Rockefeller,\n,\n, and\ngroup of businessmen and labor leaders are working with me to prepare\nfor the visit - - how important contacts are between the U.S. and these\npeople. We are trying to establish good contacts befofe I get to each\ncountry. I am feeling good about the preparatory work. State has been\nwonderful. I am taking a letter signed by Russell, Mansfield, and Scott.\nSaying Senate is speaking with one voice on VN. I wrote it. State has\napprove it for each Chief of State except the Vatican. I am comfortable\nabout that. I am uncomfortable about NATO. They start tomorrow. I\nhave worked for 2 years on this. I see $200 million coming from our\nb udget to theirs. They are talking about $300 million\ninstead of half a billion. I am going over the President's statement in\nIreland. If we are not taking out troops why worry about it. Withdrawal\nof\nand undercut Mansfield resolution and say burden sharing\nwill take care of it. I have drawn up a statement clarifying what he said.\nK: I haven't seen your statement.\nP: I wonder if I could dictate it to your office and wee what your impression\nis and devise a means of having it. I could tallx take it as personal\nassurance from youxxthe or the President. Or exchange of letters. Only\nprivately done and only if I have to.\nK: We are not sure we want U.S. troops as European mercenaries. I\nwant European defense re-examined. We will push for that. We want\na strategic reasoning and ?????.\nP: My feelings XXXIX are in Reader's Digest this month. They are paying\n74, 000 European nationals that we now hire and pay. That's not troops.\nAll buildings and construction. Runways, roadways, buildings we will\nnever have back here. Supplies over there that are used over there.\nK: It's better if I look at it and call you after I have read it. I will put\na girl on. Call you after I get back.\nP: If you have the Readers' Digest over there you will see my feelings.\nWe have made such project (?) and I have this cut I am working on and then\nto add $200 billion. This is only way we can do it.\nK: Let me take a look at it.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nPercy/Kissinger\n11:05 am\n11/5/70\n-2-\nP: Let me leave this thought with you. Months ago the President said we\nshould talk sometime. This is the only President in my adult life I have\nnot talked to in his office and It's been two years now. This may be a\nprecipitious moment to strengthen my hand over there.\nK: If not before you leave, then after you get back.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nD. Rockefeller/Kissinger\n11:17 am\n11/5/70\nR: Thank you for calling. I had a call from Percy talking about his trip\nto Europe and African in relations to VN situation and asked me if I could W\nsend messages or write letters to various people Thenight be seeing indicating\nthe seriousness of the thing. I wondered what you ghtonkx thought.\nK: To be quite honest we dion't ask him to do it. He says he is supporting\nus and he has been constructive since the President's Oct. 7 speech but\nR: Not something you asked him to do. That makes it more awkward.\nK: I wouldn't say he is doing it for the government.\nR: I don't want it in the wrong basis.\nK: You can put it on your basis of him.\nR: I will not say much about nature of trip. Say he is seeing people, old\nfriend, and heart is in right place.\nK: Frankly, we don't need another Secy. of State. He says we are undercutting\nhis negotiations with Europeans on burden sharing. That's not his job and we\ndon't want to panic the Europeans on withdrawals right now. When you write\nto Europeans make sure that his thoughts are not the same as the government's.\nR: He wants me to write to Luns. Is that on that subject?\nK: I think so. He is\npeace initiative and he says that the thinks\nhe can get $2 billion out of Europeans for burden sharing and he is using\nleverage of American forces. We have a number of hesitations. First,\nwe don't want to panic the Europeans, second, we are not sure they are\nwill to pay it and thirid, we want them to прекх spend it on their forces and\nnot ours. On the European side, he has no authorigy.\nR: I must say, this had better be a general \"hope you will enjoy meeting an\nold friend.\"\nK: That's better.\nR: Glad I called. I didn't know the background.\nK: Will see you Dec. 3 but if you come down earlier\nR: I will x try to stop by.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nD. Rockefeller/Kissinger\n11:17 am\n11/5/70\n-2-\nK: On the 3rd, the language problem we can work out as last time.\nR: Do you want to bring David or someone along?\nK: Winston Lord who is fluent in French. He is one of my assistance.\nR: I hope to see you before then.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nAdmiral Zumwalt\n11/5/70 11:30 a.m.\nZ: I'm going to have two or three minutes with Lee at lunch. I\nwonder whether I can use it effectively.\nK: I would make a strong point of the use by the Soviet navy of\nfacilities in Singapore.\nZ: I would like to.\nK: Yes, please. We have recommended that the President mention\nto Lee that we would like\n....\nto increase the number of our vessels\nnow. I don't know what home-porting means.\nZ: It means\nwould go there and ships wouldhave\nan extra base there.\nK: That is certainly not excluded. You could discuss it in a non-\ncommittel way.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nJoseph Alsop/Mr. Kissinger\nNovember 5, 1970 11:35 a. m.\njlj\nA: I think you came through the election not at all badly.\nK: In foreign policy we came out well.\nA: You will have a much better Senate.\nK: Much better. There is no comparison.\nOne exception\nwas in California. Can not\nA: Tunney muted his attack.\nK: Murphy was defeated for other reasons.\nA: Real far out attack in the\nHenry, I would like to come\ndown and spend 20 minutes today or tomorrow.\nK: Today is out of the question. I just got into the office and\nI am snowed under but I will, of course, do it.\nA: It's about the Middle East.\nK: You can not do too much of that.\nA: It's the end of the ceasefire. Hardly anyone has even noticed it.\nNot going to go on like this.\nK: Arabs cannot continue an indefinite ceasefire.\nA: This is what I wanted to talk to you about. Difficulty is what\nSoviets preparing for now that Nasser is dead will certainly be\ndone unless we can persuade Soviets that their intervention is too\ndangerous.\nK: That's right.\nA: That is what I want to talk to you about. Could I interest you\nin breakfast?\nK: Let me call you at the end of the day.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nSecretary Irwin\n11/5/70 ca. 12:15 p.m.\nI: Are you coming to the Under Secretaries meeting this afternoon?\nK: Yes if I can ever learn to understadd the issue. I've got Talmudic\nscholars here explaining it to me.\nI: The reason I call, I was wondering if I could have five minutes\nbefore or after totalk about this morning and where we go from here.\nK: I talked with the President right after onthe same issue. In\neffect, weare going to promulgate Option C, which we understood the\nSecretary to recommend.\nI: I agree. His basic position is to take any action that is not counter-\nproductive.\nK: To some extent it's bound to be slightly counter-productive\nWhat we need is a mechanism to check on a monthly basis.\n] I: We were wondering about organizing and setting something up in\nthe area.\nK: I have a proposal -- what the President has in mind on that. I\nwill discuss it with you this afternoon. I also have one other problem,\nbut that can wait too.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nHaig/Atty. Gen.\nafternoon\n11/5/70\nH: Somethings came up and HAK asked me to call you. He wanted to get\nwith you soon on the Ivanov case.\nAG: I am well aware of it. I hear from State on it every day.\nK: He is hopiggxbofx hoping for ? ? ? ?\nAG: If they give us the Mediterranean fleet we will give them Ivanov.\nK: You are having lunch with him on Monday.\nAG: Yes. We will discuss it then.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident/Kissinger\np\nafternoon\n11/5/70\nP: The other thing. Don't be concerned about the record here. What Bill\ndoes or doesn't know. What we know already.\nK: They attacked you personally when they had the meeting scheduled.\nP: So don't worry.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nRogers/Kissinger\n12:57 pm\n11/5/70\nR:\nh ave we got any reply?\nK: 10 mins. ago. I am sending it to you. Rx He recommends against it.\nIf we insist he will get sick. They made a violent attack on the President.\nR: I think its a further XSX reason why he should get sick.\nK: Your view is -\nR: Let me see what Bruce says. I don't think it will amount to a lot. If they\nmade a personal attack on the President this morning then there may be some\nlogic to having Bruce say that he doesn't feel well and taking some days off.\nK: They may stall another meeting.\nR: Let them.\nK: Yesterday I was against it but now I am for delaying it.\nR: If they made an attack on the President after we asked for a meeting --\nwe will decide this afternoon.\nK: We'll consult before discussing it with the President.\nR: How about Ky?\nK: President agreed to see him. They will give us a date before the\nPresident leaves tomorrow. Stag dinner.\nR: Jesus Christ!\nK: We commited ourself to Ky.\nR: Why not a lunch?\nK: He will not have lunches.\nR: He can do a lunch in an hour and a half. A dinner for Ky is not good.\nK: That's why we recommended lunch. I will raise it again. Haldeman\nprobably said ne never gives lunches.\nR: How about breakfast.\nK: Yeah.\nR: He hasn't behavelwell (and it should be low-key).\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident/Kissinger\n1:00 p.m.\n11/5/70\nP: I am tied up with the Ambassadors thing.\nK: I have a number of items. If we could do it this afternoon.\nP: What about the private talks?\nK: I talked with Bruce who is against it but willing to go along. I just talked\nwith Bill. They attacked you and Bruce could get sick.\nP: They can't have it both ways. A little codness might be belox helpful.\nK: Yesterday I was dubious but today I am leaning towards Bruce's getting\nsick. They knew there was a meeting and they made the attack.\nP: Why not just say we cannot arrange the schedule for that day.\nK: He already accepted the date and time. Otherwise it would be easier.\n24 hours after agreeing to the date he would cancel it.\nP: What does Bill think?\nK: He feels now that perhaps we should cancel it. We will agree to the text\nof what he said and if it's a personal attack on you we should cancel it. We\nhaven't gotten the text yet. An hour or so. If the date hadn't been set - -\nP: It should not have been without checking with me.\nK: They did it without checking with us.\nP: Bruce should point out heavily that our VN policy is endorsed by what\nh appened in the Senate.\nK: No question.\nP: Defeat of Tydings, Gore and Goodell.\nK: Fine.\nP: You see my problem. It's not good to let them kick us. If they kick us\nmilitarily we will let them have it. No fooling around.\nK: That was a very strong message to get to them.\nP: We are playing for keeps. If they wanted to do something it should have\nbeen in the election.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELCON\nPresident/Kissinger\n1:00 p.m. 11/5/70\n-2-\nK: No one who opposed you ? ??? won.\nP: Both Tunney and Stevenson\ncriticism.\nK:?????\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTelecon\nAlice McDonnel\n11/5/70 2:30 p.m.\nK: How do you feel?\nM: Very good. I still get a little tired, but have learned to live\nwith that.\nK: It always takes a long time and then suddenly starts getting\nbetter rapidly.\nM: I feel much better. Brian called to see if you were going to\nbe in town on the 14th for the concert.\nK: I won't know till tomorrow. The President is going to Key\nBiscayne and I'll have to go with him, but I don't know when I will be\nback.\nM: I will tell Brian you'll call him tomorrow.\nK: Good. When are you coming down?\nM: I don't know. I am going for a week of walking in the woods in\nConnecticut.\nK: Is Brian going with you?\nM: No, I'd like for him to but I think he feels he must stay here and\ndo some job-hunting.\nK: Maybe I can convince him to go with you.\nM: Wonderful.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissinger/Senator Percy\nNovember 5, 1970 4 p.m.\n(paraphrased)\njlj\nit\nK: I have read that statement. My major problem is that/is a\nPresidential statement. That I do not think we can do. I have not\nbeen able to see him but I do not think we can do it this way.\nP: Any way you see fit. It would be just as good if it is a statement\nof yours. Even a verbal interpretation of the President's statement.\nI just want something to undercut any arguments I get that the President\nhas said in Ireland\n(reading from statement, attached)\nK: It is OK to use the first paragraph as your understanding of what\nthe President said as confirmed with me.\nP: I was concerned\n(reading).\nK: You can not say I made this statement because I don't make\nstatements. You can say something like that this is your interpretation.\nLast paragraph I have no problem with.\nP: Reading. Then the second paragraph commending Defense\nMinisters\nHe said (reading) Why don't we say the first\nparagraph and then it is my understanding that the first paragraph\nis consistent with what the President said when he said (reading).\nK: One other thing as background. The big problem is to get forces\nof NATO restructured.\nWe do not want to get out of that problem\nby giving money.\ninfraystructure of ours. Theirs is 10 days\nsupplies and ours is 80 days supply.\nP: I have pushed burden sharing concept for the last two years\ncoming up to agreed upon force levels\nK: I want to make sure that you will say that this is your interpretation.\nIt cannot be the President's statement or mine. Have a good trip.\nP: I won't even use this unless they chop down.\nBud Osburg\n(phonetic).\nEconomic Committee unanimously agreed on this.\nNow is going to the full Assembly.\nno Germans. They may\nsay what the President said in Ireland. I have been working closely\nwith Budget and Treasury on this. It is important to them. You\nmay want to convey to D. Kennedy, this statement has them confused.\nguiding hand with me.\nK: Not put all weight on getting few hundred million dollars.\nHave a good trip.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nMr. Kissinger/Secretary Rogers\nNovember 5, 1970 4:20 p.m.\n(paraphrased)\njlj\nK: After we talked the President called and again asked whether\nwe had turned off the meeting. I told him I would talk with you and\nwe would get back to him later this afternoon. The problem is they\nhave stated this publically and press spokesman repeated that\nnamesdy namely that the President had lied to the American people\nI am leaning towards cancellation.\nR: So am I. Let me talk to Bill Sullivan and get back to you in\nfive minutes.\nLater conversation\nK: Hi Bill\nR: Henry, I think our people, Bill Sullivan, are inclined to think\nthat because we are operating from strength that we should be willing\nto discuss these things privately.\nI lean in the other direction.\nK: So do I.\nR: In the first place I am not sanguine about them have\ntheir own way.) Secondly, it was a personal attack on him.\nK: Repeating it publically.\nR: Thirdly, if they are interested in settlement\nnot change\nposition. I do not see that we have to act as if we have to go the last\nmile - we are strong. Will you send the message?\nK: You might send the message. Wait a minute. Let me talk to the\nPresident and get back to you. It should be sent back channel so he\nknows it is in the same line.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nSecretary Rogers/Kissinger\n11-5-70 4:40 p.m.\nK: I just talked to the President and he agrees with both of us.\nI showed him some of the things said today and he appreciated your\nwillingness to send the cable. I think that is the right way to do it.\nR: Any thoughts on length of time.\nK: I think a week, don't you?\nR: Yes. I think I will suggest a week and leave it up to the Ambassador.\nK: You might tell him that this was after consultation between us and\nhook it to the fact that they repeated it publicly.\nR: Good.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nTELECON\nSenator Allott/Kissinger\n11-5-70 4:45 p.m\nA: How are you now that the big war is over?\nK: I don't know enough about politics to know how to judge.\nA: I just wanted to check things. Are things still going along on\nsituation we discussed - the five of us down there.\nK: Yes. They have now pulled out remainder of their ships. The only\nthing left are the barges. Three turned up including a tender. We gave\nthem hell and they moved them out.\nA: I am going to NATO. I don't know why. I normally go to Latin\nAmerica. I think it's silly to go down there at this time.\nK: I agree. Things are too unsettled.\nA: So I'm going to not do it. What I wanted to ask you - is there\nanything in particular about NATO that you have to impart.\nK: I would be careful not to give them the impression that we are\npulling out troops\nA: I will be sure of that.\nK: Anything you can do to show them that our public opinion will not\nstand it and make them see their troop levels must come up.\nA: I can do that. The second thing: I am late-comer and have never\nbeen part of NATO group. Sometime I will tell you about the other\ngroup I am in that nobody know about.\nK: I would like that.\nA: Would you think that quick ride up to Helsinki would be good.\nK: Yes, definitely.\nA: I've been up there once.\nK: For the SALT thing?\nA: Yes\nK: I think you should do it. I'll get word to Smith telling him you're\ncoming.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified.\nAllott/HAK\n-2-\nA: I am not sure I can get away.\nK: Let me know through American Embassy. Let me know what dates.\nA: I think maybe I would like first-hand impression.\nK: I would like to get your reaction. The old NATO hands have certain\nritual.\nA: It is like Indian rain dance.\nK: A fresh mind would be very welcome.\nA: I can take Wilma. I can pay her way - go up on Committee business.\nK: Would be a good thing to do.\nReproduced at the Richard Nixon Presidential Library\nDECLASSIFIED\nThis document has been reviewed pursuant to Executive Order 13526 and has been determined to be declassified."
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