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C05098102 -2- K: I haven't seen Frankel in three months - in fact no one from the New York Times. The last backgrounder I gave was the one in October at Hartford. Do you mind if I ask him what he was talking about? H: Well, my relations are not good with him and I don't know if they are going to improve in the future. He really talks too much. You know I heard you use a word to describe Laird - exiguous (phonetic) - and that describes him perfectly. K: I have never seen a cabinet like this one. When a crises comes up no one knows anything. It reminds me of this joke. This stood up and said he was a Nazi and when they asked him why he said that nobody else seemed to think he was a Nazi so he must be one. H: (laughter) Thanks Henry. 00/12278 [D . ? of 27

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