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Prof. Yoshida/Mr. Kissinger
10:35 a. m., December 16, 1970
K:
How are you?
Y:
I'm all right, thank you. I have met my friend for about an hour
earlier today, and this was perhaps the most serious meeting I have
ever had with him. My friend has specifically asked me to speak to you
this time on his behalf with full authority. As I informed you a few days
ago, he really would like to conclude this already too protracted
negotiations within the next couple of days. My friend strongly feels
that deadline time has come for the final political decision -- he would
like to emphasize the word political decision at the highest level
within our two governments; that is, between your friend and mine.
He expressed again his personal regret for such a long delay in reaching
an agreement as he meant to give it much earlier but due to the extremely
difficult and highly technical nature of the problem and the very limited
scope of what he, himself, and his government can do to impose so-called
voluntary restrictions on the industry which is still showing stubborn
resistance at home. In spite of all that, my friend does wish to have an
agreement out of his personal conviction that this will better serve the
interests of our two countries. Now, in order to have an agreement
within 48 hours, my friend would like to ask your friend through you to
consider the following propositions. This is almost the same basic
position I have already explained to you many weeks ago; that is, put
in one sentence -- you should take substance and first give us name(?).
My friend is fully aware of the fact that your friend made a political
commitment to your industry and any agreement must be of that nature
and contents; that your friend feels that he has redeemed the minimum
requirements of the commitment, even if your industry is not quite
satisfied by it.
K:
But, of course, one problem is that if our industry isn't satisfied
with it, it doesn't help my friend to have met his political commitment.
Y:
I see. On the other hand, from our internal point of view, my
friend has to dramatize this possible agreement as a product of so-called
mutual.
K:
Well, why don't you tell me what your friend proposes rather than
discuss it theoretically.
Y:
If my friend is to survive politically and to implement it
effectively by the acquiescence of our industry; if this understanding of
the situation of both sides is a correct one, within this basic framework
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