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I will have to declare an emergency and conscript them. He
does not realize. He thinks by making the gesture he will be alright
but he is wrong. Happy is leaving. She says the tension is too
great. You and I are used to dealing with tensions. The chaos
will be something and I think he should forget 172. XXXXXX
Even if Congress does not get it to him, he should ask for it.
Can Ehrlichman or Shultz have more influence?
K:
Either one really.
R:
Well, there is none in the Congress. When I am inaugurated I
have to lay it on the line as to what Congress must do. They are
utterly leaderless. I will leave out the President. Congress is
not reflective of our needs. I think that these guys are living in
sort of a business as usual and I think we have come to an end
of that as far as domestic scene is concerned.
K:
The international scene also.
R:
I have had to reorganize my staff, and work out my message.
K:
One amazing thing to me. Here you have been in public life
13 years and yet, again, you are the most fascinating man in
politics. You are the man with the most vision. The people
that now get to the top are poor technicians of power. As long
as I have known you, you know what perspective to pursue.
These people -- the Kennedy's, Muskie's etc they do not
have this. Or the Lindsays. When I see you, I must tell you
about a conversation I had with Kennedy the other day. It is this
complete lack of moral character, a deep lack of integrity.
People like Dulles, Eisenhower or Truman -- these were all
people who still had purposes.
R:
I think this is a very important point. But maybe the shakeup
which we will have -- the story in the paper that says the students
at college are forced to work, etc.
K:
I think the people like the Kennedy's will be replaced in a few
years. I think it is very important that somebody like you calls
the issues as they are.
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