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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nMcGeorge Sundy/Kissing e\n1/12/71 9:30 a. m.\n1/21/71 ?\nB: I've got a couple of questions, one of which I need some constructive\njudgment on. I hope to come and see you otherwise when you are back.\nK: I d love to see you. I planned to call you on Friday to see when.\nB: I've got to come down next week or the one after.\nK: You want to have lunch next week?\nB: I think I could do that.\nK: I think I could do it on Monday or Thursday.\nB: While my secretary is bringing my calendar let me talk with you for\na minute. I had a talk with Matthew Meselson and he and I are wondering\nwhether there's a chance to getting people to look at the ecological restora-\ntion program, rather than an exchange of bad tempers as to how it happened.\nHe has a special concern with the Geneva Convention\noh well, that\ncan wait till lunch [The \"he\" probably refers to someone else. ]. I akked\nwhat we could do philosophically. He said have a program not to say what\nhappened at this or that, but what is the ecological, constructive future.\nHe found some very good Vietnamese scientists. What I need to know from\nyou is where the most grown-up input point is, where there ought to be a\nlistening point. He says he is not going to\nGoheen(?)\nK: Hes good on that and that office is going to take a major interest in\nit and David at OST is our best contact point.\nB: I have great personal regard for Meselson\nK: He is a fine human being and I always use him as a sample of how\nconcerned scientists can solve a problem. The only problem I have on this\nis that it doesn't surface in a way that's just pointing out moral ineptitude\nB: He is very sensitive to that. This kind of casual use of the preferred (?\n)\nweapon is one thing we don't seem able to control in American beligerency.\nK: If the war in Vietnam were over and this were seen as a means of\ndisciplining further use of it I would think it essential. We have banned the\nuse of it now. It will be phased out by May. It is being stopped now.\nB: Why not sooner?"
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