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    "ocrText": "TELECON\nSecretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger\n3:30 p. m. , January 26, 1971\nK:\nI just wanted to touch base with you. Re that cable from\nGodley, we should make Godley tell Souvanna a little more SO that\nhe has no misconceptions of what is involved.\nR:\nI don't know why Godley didn't do it. I think he has to tell\nhim exactly what we have in mind. If he has objections and claims\nduplicity, it would be a XXXX catastrophe.\nK:\nHe should know what we are doing. The President agreed\nin principle. Also tomorrow at that meeting, for your information\nI will see to it that I raise some questions SO that we get it before\nthe President and have a free discussion about it.\nR:\nBill Sullivan said you mentioned something about Stennis.\nK:\nHe said something to me. I don't think we should talk to Senators\nbefore we have made -- or are very close to an irrevocable decision.\nR:\nIn the case of Stennis, I read the colloquy he engaged in with\nEllender and Javits. Javits described exactly what we have in mind.\nStennis indicated that maybe 'in and out' would be all right. He\nacquiesced to what Javits described. Javits was almost prophetic.\nI think we would have to be sure Stennis was on board. If there is\na diplomatic upheaval, we have to get Stennis.\nK:\nMy judgment is we have to make sure Stennis would come\nalong. But I would not do that without making sure the President\nhas talked to him. We have no right to assume that.\nR:\nIf we get on the verge of going ahead, I think the President\nshould talk to him and lay it on the line.\nK:\nThat is what we did on Cambodia with Stennis, and Stennis\nagreed with it. I think it's a little premature now.\nR:\nI do, too.\nK:\nbefore the President makes the final decision to go ahead."
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