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TELCON
Mr. Kissinger/Th President
7:24 p.m., January 27, 1971
P:
It occurred to me one way we might consider it to be -- just a
second -- and it would be to go for the big play but to do it in
terms of - - remember we discussed previously the idea of laying
it out in Paris and at the same time announce the big play and withdraw
by a certain time, you understand what I mean. It gives a hell of
a kick to it and says we have fiddled around long enough. We are
going
to support the South Vietnamese and announce a withdrawal
somewhat along the lines of what you mentioned. What do you think?
K:
It depends on the time frame we are talking about. If we announce
it by the middle of next year
P:
The total withdrawal.
K:
Except for advisors.
P:
Except for the residual 50, 000 until all prisoners are released.
K:
Let me think about it, Mr. President.
P:
This would be all in one package. We are doing this -- but clear it
with Thieu SO he understands announce the whole program of
withdrawal right now but in order to do this we have to destroy the
enemy capability. Of course, it still has the disadvantage of our
Russian friends.
K:
At least it gives them something to think about, there are limits.
There are reports that another group of ships on its way to Cuba.
If they keep playing these games with us
and it makes it
a little worse for them to
P:
Think it is probably it is another way to play the game.
K:
I checked the intelligence, the fact that they don't have their men
there doesn't mean anything. They don't have the supplies to arm
the men
14,000 tons -- the men will follow after they position
the supplies.
P:
That's the way they work it. In any event it may be we can't hack
it
because of the buildup but put that carrot out there. There is the carrot
but here is the stick.
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