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TELCON Irwin/Kissinger 12:22 p. m. 1/29/71 K: One minor thing. I would like to shift the oil issue back to the Under Secretaries Committee even though the President wants. a report on it. You are up on it more than I. I: Whatever you say. It's agreeab. e to me. K: Good. I: I talked with Cargo and Pedersen. K: I will not deal with Pedersen. I: I told them all contacts would be through Cargo. In the conversation Cargo said that Sisco had quite a work few ideas on the M.E. section and a different thrust of it. Without knowing much about itxpxexix perhaps the principle diferences would be throwing it in the cast of Soviet then Arab/Israeli. I said that for Joe to make any comments he wanted but go through Cargo. If it really seems to be depending on how substantive it is, it maybe at some point that we should talk with you or you will want to talk with us or Joe. K: We will talk. I: The initial thrust will be through Bill. in K: We will talk and we don't want it totally emasculated but in M. E. where it' S Not a delicate phase -- I: All right.

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