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Secretary Rogers/Mr. Kissinger
(not verbatim)
February 8, 1971 6:00 p. m.
jlj
R: Henry, I heard you did some briefing to the press today.
K: Bill, I did not do any briefing here in my office. The President
told Ron to call me in there. It was a direct Presidential order. When
I heard about it I didn't want to do it and I told Alex immediately. Basically
a factual meeting with them. How the supply system operates and how
the trail operates but it was not done not only at my request but I didn't
want to do it when I found out about it.
R: How many were there?
K: There were about 5. It was not a background session, there was no
record kept, it was only factual. Ziegler called me into his office.
R: There was no record kept?
K: No, none.
R: I just don't want to be confronted with another Cambodia - with
Herb Klein and everybody else talking.
K: I agree with you Bill. It was done by direct order of the President.
This was not a backgrounder but a factual session and most of the talking
out of here was done by Ziegler.
R: Will I am just afraid that there will be a repetition of the Cambodian
operation.
K: You will not have a repetition of what we had last year. There was
no comment on how the decisions were made or anything like that. Just
how the system operates and why Route 9 is important and
much
of that they should not judge on the basis of what was picked up. I said
nothing about decisions - almost entirely factual. When I heard about
it I was profoundly concerned and immediately told Alex. I did not
want to do it.
R: I have trouble understanding this system. We all get together and
solemnly agree that no one will say anything and the first thing I know
the White House keeps violating the rules.
K: Bill, we have all played so well in this exercize. If something like
this happens again I will go directly to you and perhaps we can go
together. I am sorry about this.
R: OK
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