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Scotty Reston/Kissinger
10:30 a. m.
3/1/71
K: Can I make a personal point that is not a complaint but a reflection on
our time? What I -- I don't want you to correct anything but I am saddened
when I see someone of your moral stature make a point -- 65-45 and you
will stick with it 100%. The thing I was trying to say that makes this present
situation so sad in this country -- if you put Harriman and me in the same room
the difference between us is 10% but when they speak it has to come out -- any
decision is 100%. You can reverse it but the fact that it's done
and
thoughtfully, a comment pro or con doesn't ? ? ? . That's the point I was
trying to make.
R: You didn't make it.
K: But not what you are making either. The fact that we are stuck with it.
I am not complaining but things are being done that must be debated.
R: But they are not being debated. We are being tricked. There's not an
honest debate between you and the critics on your policy. Not at all.
K: It's not true. The one thing I am not doing is & testifying before Congress.
No one has met with more college groups or outside groups than I have. You
have violent disagreements with what's being done and that's sad enough.
R: I don't disagree with that but I am talking about the central question here.
town
This
XXIXE is riddled with mistrust. It wasn't worse even during the Johnson
time. I believed for awhire but I don't any more.
K: That your entitled to do. We will have to see how it looks after awhile.
R: The decision of this government going across an international border
without the President saying a word. The President seeing only those who
support his position and not others. It's shoddy.
K: I am not here to argue the public relations policy. I think the systematic
attack on the credibility is not the most elevating but I see no point in our
throwing things back and forth now. It's barely conceivable that there are
serious people on both sides.
R: I think there are.
K: It's also conceivable that we have the same objectives. The assumption
of virtue on one side --
R: I don't think -- there's that element and there always has been.
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