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    "ocrText": "Mr. Kissinger/Secretary Laird\n(not verbatim)\nMarch 4, 1971 9:35 a. m.\njlj\nL: I just wanted to chat with you about a minute or two about a couple\nof things. I am going to be up on the Hill all the rest of this week and\nall of next. I do not get a chance to talk with you as often as I would\nlike to. There is one thing that I wanted you to be aware of because it\nmight leak out and I want you to be aware of it. The Appropriations\nCommittee was briefed by Helms on all of our intelligence operations.\nHe was asked if there was evidence of prisoners at Son Tay and he said\nhe would not want to get into that. Then he was asked if there was\nevidence of prisoners not being there. In response to that he said that\nthis was a difference of opinion between Senator Fulbright and IXTXEX\nSecretary Laird and he did not want to get into it.\nK: God Dam it!! That is disgusting.\nL: Now don't get upset about it Henry. I will handle it and I didn't tell\nyou so you would get upset about it. I just wanted you to know what had\nhappened in case anything came out on it. I was at a party last night\nand several people came up and asked me about it.\nK: Did you talk to Helms about it?\nL: Yes.\nK: What did he say?\nL: Well, he said he thought it was a little indiscreet but he has been getting\nso much heat on intelligence questions that he said perhaps he did back\naway from this one. I told him I could tell him one thing well in advance,\nthat if he and Fulbright had a difference of opinion that I would be the one\ndefending Dick Helms.\nK: He is not a neutral figure. I may talk to him about this.\nL: No. I will handle it Henry. They are going to question me on this\nthis afternoon and I will take care of it then. Helms said he did not\nreact quite possibly the way he should have.\nK: You and Fulbright are not on the same level as far as Helms is\nconcerned.\nL: I just wanted you to know in case the story might leak. Long talked to\nRhoads.\nK: Who is Long?"
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