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TELECON Admiral Moorer/Mr. Kissinger 12:14 p.m., March 13, 1971 M: I wanted to touch base on a couple of things. I chatted with Haig. I received a briefing from MACV made up in response to Laird's guidance for withdrawal plans. We are now faced with about three plans SO far. (1) In response to Laird's guidance he left in January K: I'll bet he left two; I'll bet he has a private one with Abrams. M: This is the only one I am aware of. (2) Then there is the one dictated by Budget as it now stands. (3) Then there is the one JCS/MACV recommended. The Army has a limitation, with regard to draft calls. They all have to be looked at. Haig's trip will be very helpful in this regard. We will work on them some more over here. We have to look at the mission aspects and increment aspects. Shifting a minute, I think the plan up north the Lam Son plan -- is being handled all right. They will stay in there. My prediction is they will stay through the full extent of the dry season. K: Across roads or horsing around? M: Fighting if they come all the way down through Base Area 611. There will be plenty of opposition. Everybody is itching to go. K: What is the weather now? M: There is a static front sitting in there -- just about what it's been, but it should move now in a couple of days. One other thing -- you remember the CIA report noted that from 23 over to the main artery has been opened. This is not so. I talked to Clay, the Air Commander, and told him to get after the road-builders and any other effort to develop some crossroad that goes from 23 to the main route and work over the construction workers and not let them open that road, and also to put sensors in there. If they have movements, it might be with road machinery. CIA gave the impression it was open. Clay says it isn't. K: We are not using 23 very much anyway. M: There's a lot of talk about their end-running us. In any event they will be vulnerable.

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