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TELCON Don Oberdorfer/Kissinger 2:55 p.m. 3/20/71 O: The Post asked me to do this article on the emergence of HAK in the news. I want to keep my date with you on Tues. I was talking with McGovern this morning and I am doing a story on it for the paper tomorrow. K: I have been seeing the same number of people all the time. O: Tell me that Tues. That will be part of the story. K: I have never talked about it and kept it quiet. It's been done only to stay open here. Mk Now it's a tremendous publicity thing. O: I don't know how tremendous it is but one story brings to another story and that how it works. So what's going on and find out about it. Let me ask you about it (the meeting with McGovern). K: I won't talk about it. What does he say? O: You invited him to come. Talked about an hour and a half. Talked about the war. He expressed his views and you showed sympathy. Nothing substantive. in The question is xoot this case because he is a Presidential candidate for the Democratic party is whether you did this at the suggestion of the President or with his K: I have had a general instruction from the President to be prepared to talk with any group. I have had Humphrey here and talked with everyone. Just an effort to stay open to the people. Always off the record. I am pained O: He said that before he left you said that if he wanted to tell the press, he could. K: That's not my recollection but I don't remember saying it. O: That's his impression. He didn't call us -- he is not promoting the story. We heard about it and called him. K: I have seen every week since I have come here at least one member of a group opposed to us. A member of student groups. It's been a fixed policy here. I have seen McGovern here before -- about a year ago for breakfast. O: This is in the general policy. K: I don't check every individual appoint ment. I didn't check this one but no reason to think there was an objection. I don't wouldn't do it. I do it because I want to be sure I makxex know what they are saying and make sure they know what we are trying to do -- this is not this for quotation -- we feel very k deeply

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