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TELCON Mr. Kissinger /The President 7:10 p.m., March 25, 1971 K: Mr. President P: Hello, Henry. Any news? K: Well, I had a talk with our friend and most of it was on Berlin and technical points. When we were through with that, two interesting things. Dobrynin asked whether I had any message for Hanoi - they are very ready to pass messages and he said any message I want to pass, he is willing to pass. But I think this is a bad time and I told him, "No, I don't have any. 11 But he kept coming back to it. They let me know through him that they still P: Hanoi? K: Yeah. He passed me that message in February too but I think it is a bad time to respond. P: You think they may really want to have a discussion? K: It is absolutely inconceivable that Dobrynin would raise this on his own. He was reading from his notes which he had on a little slip of paper. That's the third time he has come back to it. He made an offhand comment in January that they are ready to but I said the reasons we had not ever gotten anywhere is that they had always made speeches to us. He knew about the meetings and he came back a month later and asked again and now this is the third time. They raised less hell about the bombing than any other and haven't gloated about their so-called victory. P: Uh-huh. K: Not going next week is an excellent consideration. P: I am just not going to go. K: I have already told State. P: Yeah. K: First when we talked about Vietnam, I said don't let your Allies confuse you. We know that they are in trouble, you have to make klxex a big decision we are not going to go one way or the other. Fundamentally understands your direction.

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