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Bill Timmons
4/1/71 11:40 a.m.
K: You people are beginning to try my patience. Every day I
get some other hot shot resolution which I am told may be acceptable.
No resolution is acceptable -- no resolution of any kind. Here I've
got this O'Konski resolution
T: That's terrible.
K: It's impossible, totally unacceptable. It's worse than a time-
certain one. There are other issues in Vietnam than the releaseof the
prisoners. It is not the only issue. At this time we stand on the Octo-
ber 7 statement. And if our people hold tight we may be able to make
a negotiation.
T: This Matsunaga thing -- it won't be an isolated resolution.
K: I don't think they will pass it.
T: I don't either.
K: I don't think they will take the responsibility for losing the war.
Take the line the President took with Boggs and Albert, that he will go
after the Congress if they take the responsibility.
T: They are looking for something supportive.
K: Have them say the October 7 announcement and the withdrawal
proposal. But not what we've got here.
T: No, that's terrible!
K: My memorandum says that MacGregor doesn't see that as a
probeim
T: I have here: "In support of national objectives
the 92nd
Congress places full support in the initiatives of the President which may
be pertinent to these goals. 11
K: That will never get passed.
TK: Probably not, but it'ssomething to offer as a substitute which
is supportive of the President.
K: You do that and then someone offers aomething else and you have
a negotiation with yourself.
T: We won't offer this unless we are stuck with a complete withdrawal
statement
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