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TELECON Secretary Laird 4/9/71 10:57 a. m. page 2 L: Okay. Next thing, it doesn't do any good to get into a hassle with Ford, Scott, Griffin, on what the President did or did not say. These Congressmen are going to unite on their inter- pretation. for them to get into a big flap on it now. It's Scott talking. To get the White House into a flap with Scott and Ford Were you there? I wasn't. K: Yes, I was there. What he said is consistent with both interpreta- tions. The Congressmen are not wrong to draw the conclusion they did that he had a date in mind. L: They think it is wrong to have the President make a foontal attack on them. For one thing if there's anything that unites guys being taken on that way. They say the President said he had a plan but wasn't giving it to them/ K: That's right. He did say that. L: It would have been better if they had kept their mouths shut, but it's better now if we keep our mouths shut. K: I think we all should shut up now. We should just stand on the President's speech. L: That ought to be, but Klxexixex that isn't what happened yesterday. K: I will see that Ziegler keeps quiet. L: We are trying to get down into that Congressional fight and I am not going to. K: Let's just stand on the President's speech, but let's not explain it either. L: We are going to stay with it, but what's happening over there is that some people are backing away from the President's speech. We have got to just stand on it and then forget it. Scott and Ford and all these guys are going to go all out that he promised a total withdrawal let them do that talking. But there's no sense in taking them on. We are the losers if we start doing that. K: Okay. One thing I wanted to mention. We have a Verification Panel meeting this afternoon on SALT and there are two things: One, the President would prefer to have Safeguard against NCA rather than NCA against NCA in the position

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