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The President/Mr. Kissinger
7:32 p. m., April 15, 1971
P:
I just wanted to hear how the Newsweek thing went, or is he still
there?
K:
No, he has gone.
P:
Did you shake him?
K:
Oh, I really gave him hell. He said and I believe him, when it is
in the international section because Christopher in their foreign
affairs
if it is in the national section it is more
In any event he said, don't worry about it. I have concluded that
Vietnam has disappeared from the front pages forever.
P:
He said that. Well, I think China more than Moscow is more than
a nerve thing for these people. Let's face it, in the long run it is
SO historic.
K:
Don't want to get our hopes up too much but it is conceivable and
very possible that they know Hanoi is going to make a peace move
and they don't want to be left out.
P:
Back to the Russian thing, I am concerned about the TASS thing - as
are you concerned, can we call Vorontsov again?
K:
Think that would make us look too eager, Mr. President.
P:
Maybe you should call Dobrynin.
K:
I have called Dobrynin once, had Vorontsov in once and called
Vorontsov in this morning and had Ziegler put out a statement.
P:
I think that is enough. TASS -- they must be hysterical about it.
They must think we are doing something.
K:
They also used it against the Chinese.
P:
How is that?
K:
They are purists while the Russians are opportunists.
P:
Hell, are the Chinese colluding with the
.
The columnists
will be writing about this for at least 2 weeks. And Hubbard thought
it would take Vietnam out of the play for a while.
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