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    "ocrText": "TELECON\nMacGeorge Bundy\n5/13/71 11:50a.:\nB: You have a lot of friends on your fight, but they have got to get\na signal. That goes for the press and the people on the whole. You can't\nfight something with nothing. They need to know what the something it.\nK: You think they want a solution, a compromise?\nB: They want something the White House is backing. No one thinks\nit is safe to go after Mansfield without an alternative. They also say\nMike doesn't mean to press this to the heart. He has said that to a guy\nI trust.\nK: The President is not inclined to accept any compromises that\ncommit him to withdrawing troops as a national policy. We are making\nand have made extensive reviews of the NATO policy. We haven't com-\nmitted ourselves to any sepcific levels, but we don't want to commit\nourselves to withdrawing either.\nB: The brethern up there -- Republicans and Democrats alike --\nwho hold to a European policy in essence think there must be some way of\nstating the sense of the Senate in a way that is also the sense of the White\nHouse.\nK: No question about that.\nB: What you said yesterday, perhaps numbers aren't the point. The\npoint is in light of what Europe can do and in light of others in Western\nhasn't Europe. I can't write the language. But there is a sense that the quarterback\ncalled the signals.\nwe\nmust K: rectify If that that. is the case and since you tell me it is I assume it is\nB: The guy I got it from is Mathias, but I've also gotten it from news-\npaper people.\nK: Let me call Mathias immediately and see where we can go from there.\nB: And he's got Bowie helping him. So you see he is not reaching out\nfor crazy people. He is not sure he's got people behind him as staunch as\nhe is.\nK: I'll call him and find out what signal he would find helpful. The\nimpression here is that start with Mathias\nwe don't want to commit\nourselves to"
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