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Telecon Mr. Kissinger Mr. Dave Kraslow 5/20/71; 8:15 p.m. K: Did David give you my message? HK: That we may be starting a new era of foreign policy? I agree. I am serious. That depends if both sides have enough vision to do it. At this point we are in a period where you are seeing a lot of develop- ments - the Chinese thing, the Soviet thing. Obviously no government would put out a statement like this if we didn't think we could bring about an agreement. We think that this may be the beginning of a new attitude towards relations with states with different ideals. K: By this you mean the SALT thing? HK: Yes, and reduction of forces. K: Brezhney's speech on reduction of forces, you mean? HK: SALT, Brezhnev's speech on reduction of forces, China, new approach in Asia in general. K: How about the Middle East? No shooting in ten months. HK; Berlin negotiations which SO far are stalemated but so was SALT. K: But no regression. HK: No, but some slight progress. K: If you were in the position outside looking in, what would you do about Vietnam at this stage. HK: Vietnam is a phenomenon. K: What does that mean? HK: It was something that was inherited -- it in itself is not a new concept of foreign policy. The fact that we are improving relations with the Soviet Union may turn Vietnam into just a issue. It may make it easier to settle with negotiations. K: What sort of timeframe should we talk about. How much time would you give Nixon Administration? HK: By 1976 we will have brought off

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