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TELECON Senator Pearson 6/17/71 10:23 a. m. K: I am calling about the amendment that is being voted on today on the war, Cooke-Stevens. I wanted to express to you the President's strong feel- ing that we are now at the most delicate phase in the negotiations on this war. What we need at the moment is an opportunity to see what can be negotiated and to do it in our own way through methods we are pursuing. know with this New York Times thing no one believes what the President says P: I believe the President and have no reason not to believe you. K: Anyone who sticks with us will not be embarrassed. P: That's what the problem is for those of us who are up for reblection in '72. K: He is up too. Our problem is this: Weh have bane more shot at the negottations. We don't want to conduct them in the Washington Post or public. P: I can understand that. I haven't paid enough attention to the Cooke- Stevens amendment to know about it. That's one of our problems. But from what I do know about it I have no intention of voting for it. But I must say, had the Childs (?) amendment stayed as it was, I would have votedf for it. People have hit the end now. Even the biggest hawks I have in Kansas want out. K: We know that Senator and the only thing I can say is if we can take account of this concern in a way to get us out in a measured time, that's the best solution. We don't want to demogogue this but you can hold the President and me personally responsible if we make you look bad. P: I don't think in those terms. K: We believe any comprehensive amendment will just undermine the negotiations. And we know what the proposals are; we are taking them seriously. P: This is helpful to me. I don't think the New Yorkk Times stories have had any effect on the Senate. The heroin stories are having a great effect. K: As well they might. P: And the election is having a great effect. Maybe in the universities they are but I don't see that here. K: Well, in the universities they are against

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