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TELECON The President 6/21/71 10:35 a.m. p. 2 P: I pointed out then, look at the facts after the confrontation I had and after Hiss finally admitted he had done it. I was talking to a reporter, He was emotional about it -- he said he still thought this investigation was wrong because it casted doubt on the Roosevelt foreign policy. From that time on I knew people in Washington have a different morality. I said to him 'you can't mean that. : And he said 'yes sir. I His point was that Hiss had been at the UN and at Yalta, and he was right, and it did cast doubt. When you really smoke them out, they want to prove the war is wrong and they want to destroy us. On the first, you can't fight them but on the second you wan. K: They've thrown down the gauntlet P: And in a way that's a good thing. K: And when we have told them that we are going through a delicate process. It's unforgiveable, what they are doing to the country, P: What they are trying to do -- they haven't done it yet. Well Henry we'll have an all-out offensive. We'll get you out saying a few things. We'll start using the bakkground thing, not just in Britain but here. And I'll do it too. If they think Agnew was hard on them wait till the President starts. K: Exactly. And the press isn't all that popular right now. If we just give it a little time don't object to giving documents to Congress, but we must do it with great care. There are going to be lots of documents going to newspapers. P: Once they have been published I'd give them to them. K: I'd do it but with a bleeding heart and a reluctant attitude. P: Be sure you get that view to Ehrlichman. K: I have. Of course McGregor is the other way. P: Of course he has to fight that battle. You've gotta say this, he has done a job on those votes Henry. Even better than Bryce did. What he does is he says the President has something going, don't know what but something. He brokers that something terrific. K: No, he's terrific. P: And Scali's the same on the other side.

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