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Moorer/Kissinger
11:15 a. m.
9/2/71
M: Question here. Getting ready for X DPRC Wed. I know you discussed
with Laird at breakfast. We are charging around on a decrement -- future
cuts.
K: Is that what Laird said I said?
M: In order for you to go to President you have to assure him you examined
additional cuts below the par.
K: We have 3 recommendations from the Secy.
one from every consumer
ranging from 76-83. I was at a budget meeting and ? ? ? ? ? . I said we
can't do that. Statement from services and see what it comes out as. He
gave three weeks. Therefore, if you are in a position to come up with a package
and get thex it costed out we could stick
send
what you are after. But you
will Wank him up the wall if you say one aircraft carrier and so forth. He-will
say he wants more then we can afford but if you do it with the dax budget, it will
cut it down. My interest is to get your pxxxxxx people to do it in terms of
mission. Best guarantee for national defense budget.
M: xRkey That clears up points.
K: What I have found most effective with the President is to say with X carriers
we can do this, with Y do that, and SO forth.
M: I understand. We worked up something similar last winter.
K: That's what will be mosteuseful.
Further conversation: 11:20 a. m.
K: I didn't frankly know what you were talking about until I talked with Haig.
I never talked about decrement. My thought was opposite. It was to keep
the defense budget at what's useful and needed. So the whole thrust of the
conversation was 180 degress opposite to what you were told. If you put it into
missions he will send more than he can pay for. One other thing, Zumwalt
called Haldeman and said he didn't think the Navy's concerns were getting to
the President and could bax he see the President and Haldeman said it was
out of order and had to go through me. That won't work in the WH.
M: He is bouncing X like a rubber ball. I will x speak to him.
K: I am not your trouble in this budgetary thing.
M: Thanks for tell me. I will speak to him.
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