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Johnson/Kissinger 11:47 a. m. 9/7/71 -3- K: If you give these fellows 2-3 fotal points they run with it. J: I told Peterson put it aside. We don't need to decide now. K: IThat's m y position and X wanted to check with you. J: I agree. K: On principles, anything except for Secy's meeting with Fullo da I think we should discourage. J: There will be counterpart lunches. I think Connally talking with Mazoka is helpful and others are harmless. K: I understand the Secy. will talk about textiles with Fukoda. J: It depends on what they raise. Fukoka trying to get something on textiles to talk when he is here but it looks like he has nothing now. Whatever decision on this there is hx I agree the Secy. and Fukoda should do it. Avoid having Peterson calling people over to talk about it. K: I will try to fix it here. On the UN, while we will try for Japanese sponsorship [typist not sure of this] I don't want to ask for it. Morex we can avoid ganging up on Chinese the better off we are. J: I understand. It takes direct handling here. The Secy. will handle it with Fulluda. He has a sense on that. K: Should I talk with him on a personal basis? Not as a Presidential directive. J: No. Talk with him on a personal basis. We have had this on mind. K: We want their vote but not necessarily sponsorship. J: Without their sponsorship to a considerable degree we - w K: I have heard on the news what demands they will make for co-sponsorship. J: It's quite clear that the big decisive issuex in politics is China issue and not economy. Tearing LDP apart. and Nakasoni in between. It's the major issue in their country. As far as we are concerned it's economics issue and see Chirep as a subsidiary but it's the opposite in Japan. K: What does it mean and what can we do?

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