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Zeigler/Kissinger
9:53 a. m.
9/2/71
Z: Just talked with Haig. Have guidance tgat says haven't seen text so can't
comment. If we follow this line we will end up with hostility here and reports
will be negative. And good that we tried to influence Kyand Minh. He feels
that you feel that subtelties are such that we should delay comment.
K: I haven't seen speech. What do you think we should say?
Z: I don't know but it seems we should say that one thing is that we are following
it with interest and it's internal and Thieu needs to take the steps he has taken.
? ? ? ? ? ? provides a context and that's not
to seek to influence
the other way. It maybe the wrong way to say it but on that idea. It's that
kind of questioning.
K: I fust feel -- don't know what the son of a bitch proposed and if it's
we are worse off.
Z: We consider elections internal matter and had hoped for contested
election. We expressed regret when other's withdrew. Now there's a set of
circumstances there and we have not seen the text but it's an internal matter.
Then if they say did we know and try to influence we can say we new but haven't
seen the text SO can't answer. I don't want to no comments.
K: Then they will say you mean to say that with a speech of that magnitude --
Don't want to get tied to specifics.
Z: Because he made it and we don't know. We could say ? ? ? ?
.
K: Say we had general idea but haven't studied the specifics yet. Can you turn
off the speculation on Japanese visit? We don't want to go to Japan.
Z: This is based on guidance from your people and that was that President
wants to go to Japan in the future.
K: The headline --
Z: It didn't X come from me. It came out of Japan.
K: They know they will have no Prime Minister next year and they are making
us patsies. They are worse then the NVN. Don't give the impression there's
a big hassle. We are generally aware and views known.
ZL Were we disappointed?
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