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Telecon Mr. Kissinger Secretary Laird 9/14/71; 6:55 p. m. -2- - K: Really, the President was extremely disturbed. L: What did he say about Stu Alsop's story? K: He didn't say. But Stu is dying and he is no longer rational. L: These guys are taking the lead -- they think Stu is close to the White House, etc. I understand Phil Potter wrote a story - - those are cheap stories -- they don't want to be outdone by Alsop. You will find that everyone from the Joint Chiefs, Service Secretaries, Assistant Secretaries, absolutely understand this. K: Did you see what Evans quotes me as saying about you in his book? He quotes me as saying Laird is a rascal but a good rascal. L: That's good. I have other problems, you know. I can't do anything about the selective service thing. But these cheap stories will continue. K: We are going to have an NSC meeting on Monday where the President will make the point with great vehemence. L: I can't stop a cheap story like that. K: I think if you scare your people. L: You can't scare these people. K: Just scare your own people. L: There have been no questions answered on troop withdrawals. K: No conversations in the corridors. L: I can guarantee you K: Okay, Mel. I L: 10 have a few problems on memos on the Corps of Army XIXIX Engineers, etc. K: But they don't come from my office. L: But the President is signing them.

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