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TelCon: :45-9/16/71 The President/ Mr. Kissinger P: You are sure we are not at fault there. K: Absolutely not. P: Because it is a K: Mack is using that as a maneuver to get a higher deal from the Russians and I have continued to stay in approved $250 million. Now Satra Col. which is working with Mack has applied for a $320 million loan for export licenses for the Kama River which we are going to approve. P: When it comes do it fast and do get a lot of publicity on it. K: What they are doing now is that they have only withdrawn from the overall supervision part of it but not the individual part of it and there is a pressure negotiating ploy by Mack they have never submitted a significant application $320 million is going to be approved - I guess within two weeks. P: I want to personally be present tomake sure it gets the public relations it should at the earliest possible time. What about Gromyko? K: I wouldn't give the day. I would just say yes I expect to see him. P: I wouldn't give the date. I don't even know the date. K: The date is the 29th. P: What about the Red China that of course was inevitable. K: And we have been in touch with Taiwan and find they will oppose it. P: In other words we will just say we oppose it. Do you think I should say a whole lot on Taiwan. K: No. P: I will say we support one - oppose the other. K: Exactly right.

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