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    "ocrText": "Telecon\nMr. Kissinger\nMartin Mayer\n10/27/71; 6:20 p.m.\nM: Thank you for calling me.\nK: Thank you for sending me a copy of the article.\nM: I hope you weren't too unhappy.\nK: No, not at all since it is fairly favorable. I think it is a good article.\nI have a few things I want to point out. The disagreement with the\nKennedy Administration was not over how to defend Europe but about\nthe relationship between the U. S. and Europe. Actually more in the\npolitical I was not opposed to a\nself-reliant Europe\nM: No problem about that.\nK: The other thing if I said Christina Ford is a great fan of mine\nI must have meant it as a joke. It would be very embarrassing thing.\nM: Okay, okay, very good. understand.\nK: On the other quote about Richardson this I did say but\nI\nsaid\nit\nin relation to something -- the implication that\nhe\nwas better than I would make him worse. I was trying to explain to\nyou why two committees with the same membership why one of them\nworked out better under my chairmanship than his. What I was trying\nto say from every respect he was just as good as I. If I would have\nmade a comment about his quality this would have been an arrogant\nstatement. I frankl y don't believe he is better than I in foreign policy.\nNor do I deny that I am vain.\nM: Let me look into that. I don't want to promise you that. Vanity\nis not the same as arrogance -- vanity is a self-image. I am not going\nto give up on this one because I think it is a characteristic that many\npeople who know you find in you and I do too, but it doesn't bother us\nbut it does get mentioned.\nK: I would not deny that it is true. Except in this case it would not\nprove your point. I have two other ones which concern the same person.\nGloria Steinem -- you will just trigger that maniacl girl into protestations.\nIf you just mention Barbara Howar. Especially the second time you\nuse her name.\nM: The second one - oh, yes."
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